Patti Talks Too Much
Hi. I'm Patti and it's been said - many times - that I talk too much. I'm a teacher, author, nature lover and for ten years I owned a coffeehouse cafe where my faith in the goodness of humans was restored every day. This podcast highlights the awesomeness of humanity - er...outside the warmongers, globalists, tyrants and politicians in general. You know, the rest of us weird, quirky and sometimes hilarious humans.
We'll talk woo, probe mysteries and leave you thinking about something more interesting or entertaining or uplifting than your grocery list, or boss or that oil change your car needs.
I talk too much because I can't help my Gemini moon and Leo Rising nature. I do a podcast because it's cheaper, funnier and more productive than therapy.
Patti Talks Too Much
Homestead Dreams, Nutritional Paradoxes, and Love in a World Without the Moon
Ever wondered how to build a dream homestead from scratch? Join us in this episode as Anoki takes us through her exhilarating journey of constructing a 16 by 50 cabin on her idyllic mountain property. From hurricane-proof features to eco-friendly recycling methods, Anoki's story is a treasure trove of inspiration and practical advice. You’ll also get a peek into her future plans for adding camper spots for visitors, all while enjoying spectacular mountain views.
Switching gears, we tackle the often misunderstood world of healthy eating and weight loss. We unravel the irony of dietary trends, like the shift from lard to processed oils, and how misconceptions about weight and wealth affect our health. Through personal anecdotes, we highlight the importance of healthy fats, the dangers of sugar, and the benefits of gradual weight loss. Plus, we share our experiences with the carnivore diet and discuss how to maintain a balanced, sustainable lifestyle.
Lastly, we dive into the mystery of rheumatoid arthritis and its potential connections to diet and COVID-19. Reflecting on personal theories and experiences, we explore the impact of dietary patterns, mindful eating, and the effectiveness of intermittent fasting. We also touch on cultural shifts in consumption, extreme weather patterns, and a creative new love story set in a world where the moon has disappeared. Tune in for a mix of heartfelt discussions, practical tips, and thought-provoking narratives that promise to leave you both informed and inspired.
We are live if you are joining us from YouTube, rumble, facebook. Thank you for joining us. This is Patty with Patty Talks Too Much. I'm here with my dear friend, inoki and maybe, you know, maybe Taylor will be joining us this morning. It's always you know, we just never know. She works to the wee hours of Friday nights, you know, as a waitress, so she might be joining us later. Anoki was just showing me her property and where she's going to be putting her new home on her property. So it's really yeah, it's really really exciting.
Speaker 1:So I was going to ask you and do you mind talking about?
Speaker 2:some of the details about this endeavor. Um, yeah, well, I mean, I'm getting a 16 by 50 building put up here in the mountains like a cabin building and, uh, and it's the shell. So, um, it's going to be a little while before we can move in or anything, but I've been clearing the spot and fixing two different trenches that are in the driveway and uh, and I've got four and a half acres up here but this is where the buildings can go and, uh, I'll have this like beautiful view to look out on and it'd be really nice because I from here, I have like a vantage point of seeing the whole property um
Speaker 2:and where I was down in the front corner, I couldn't really see a lot of what was going on and like I'd be outside but to be on the porch, like I was kind of out of sight of you know where my son was. So then I was always just pulling a chair in the random of wherever he was, and so it'll be really nice to just be up here real comfortably. It's got a lot of windows.
Speaker 2:It's got a lot of big, beautiful windows, a couple three-by-five windows and they're all you know hurricane windows and stuff the roof is like 40 year warranty and it's all built to house code and we got our permits through the county, which was a big, huge relief and we were originally going to put it down a little further um, under the oak, but I just felt like maybe you know it was a lot more work, a lot more grading that we would have had to have done, and I thought, well, it'd be so nice to have that big open area for family and people you know like to come by.
Speaker 2:And then, uh, I have, I want to put a couple you know little camper spots out here, um, and so that leaves room for things like that you know, that happened what's your, what's your timeline on this, like when?
Speaker 1:how long do you think it's going to take to finish everything up so you guys can move into it?
Speaker 2:well, the building's gonna be here next weekend, probably the weekend after that, we'll have a 200 amp power service drop to it. Um, and then we're pretty good at finding materials on facebook marketplace and stuff you know, for free or cheap yeah um and uh, and so we'll probably be doing that. We're going to recycle some of the materials from the teardown of our house, like we're still gonna have our house there are you? Yeah, I was gonna using it back to the um, the three-room cabin, the original.
Speaker 2:The original yeah, yeah, um all right, so how big?
Speaker 1:okay, so how big is it going to be when you tear away all of the additions?
Speaker 2:so so it's probably going to be close to the same size as the building. It'll be probably around 800 square feet. Um, because the porch the back is not considered an enclosed porch.
Speaker 1:And here's the front porch on the house.
Speaker 2:Even though they closed it in and made it a room, it was still considered open porch, so it'll be about the same as the building. The building's going to be 800 square feet. It'll be about the same as the building. The building's going to be 800 square feet. It might be 850 square feet with a loft you know, because it's a lot higher of a building.
Speaker 1:So are you going to be able to use, when you tear away the extra right, the non-original parts?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I already have the doors for the original cabin, the door frames are still there. So I just have to put two exterior doors on the back and it's completely sealed.
Speaker 2:Well, are you going to be able to use any of the material from the teardown with your building construction so I'll have a lot of tin and I'll have a lot of through, two by three, two by four, timbers, you know, like real, real timbers. Um, I'll have, I'll have a whole ton of drywall, but that's probably going to come out to go into the new building. As long as we can get the sheets off without breaking real bad or having any major cracks, we'll put them into the new build.
Speaker 1:Now what about plumbing?
Speaker 2:So I want to connect the plumbing to the plumbing that we have, since we won't be using it and it's rated for um such a high flux. You know, such a high flow, we can still use the plumbing that's there and just connect it to that. Now we'll have we'll have a good amount of pipe, you know, but it's on a hill and it'll be graded, you know, down so it's so, it's going to, it's going to have the angle that it needs to get down there to you know, get through that distance.
Speaker 1:Well, I'm, I'm really looking forward to the updates. You know, as you as you go along as you kind of work on on this kind of this homestead project. I think it's awesome. There's a lot.
Speaker 2:It feels so much nicer being up here on the hill, you know, like I love being down there and and stuff, but but it's like I, uh, I was afraid to trim out the trees, you know, because I hate cutting trees down, and and then I realized like they really weren't too healthy because they were just overgrowing on top of each other. And since we've like cut them, like this guy had three trees beside him and he was just all his branches were straight up in the air, you know, and now, he's dropping out and filling up.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so that's really nice to see that, that you know some of them are able to respond to yeah, need to grow we were talking about that last week, you know yeah, about how they need the sunlight and sometimes in the forest, you know, if it's not tended or whatever, um no, I said like sometimes those, those older trees, will just come down spontaneously combust or come down. Yeah, come down and create a whole, you know, a whole area of sunlight for the other trees, and so it does. It really sparks their growth.
Speaker 2:Yeah, back in Native culture. Native culture was the original, like US forestry, you know, and Native cultures all had control burns where they would light the fire specific times when the winds were going certain ways, you know, to clean the forest, to tend everything so that all the acorns would open up, because some, some pine trees will only disperse their seeds um in extreme heat yeah like so. So um you know what time for is specifically they.
Speaker 2:That's why they need to do the burns on them to one, cut them back a little bit. To two, clear up the needles, because they kind of mulch themselves if you've ever had a big pile of mulch somewhere and you stuck your hand sorry somewhere, and you stuck your hand down in the middle of the mulch pile. You'd know that you can actually get burns in the center of the mulch pile.
Speaker 1:This, this kind of this consultation I had this week with this naturopathic person that that you know I'm I'm reading her book. This is a different book. I'm I'm reading her book because she, she healed her rheumatoid arthritis by doing, by doing things. And it's not, like you know, it's a one, two, three like we're used to in our culture. It's like, oh, just take this pill and everything will be miraculously better. Well, we all know that, first of all, that doesn't work. You know, we're just fooled into believing that, you know, and we kind of live in this instant gratification culture, whatever we believe those things. So, at any rate, we had a brief consultation and I am going to be starting next week, as soon as I get what I need, I'll be starting my first cleanse. But there's like a series of cleanses I'm going to be doing that are pretty intense. So parasite cleanse, a liver flush, a colon cleanse that I'll be doing kind of in that order. She says that it'll take about a year for me to heal my rheumatoid arthritis. So I'm in it. I'm in it for the long haul.
Speaker 1:I'm jumping in both feet and making a commitment to doing this approach, along with the changes that I've made in my diet.
Speaker 1:So I have done a lot like I've eliminated white flour and, you know, like sugar, and so I've really, really cleaned up my diet too.
Speaker 1:But the problem is is like if you've got, let's say you have parasites and most of us do and your liver is a little sluggish and you've got layers along your colon that hinder absorption, you could be doing all kinds of things for your health, but maybe you're not getting the nutrients, you know. So you're doing all these things, so I'm taking this nutrient, I'm taking that nutrient, but it might not be having as much of an impact as you would expect because you've got all these things in the way. And so the whole point of doing these cleanses is to really free up your body to be able to utilize the nutrients that you're giving it and also to heal itself, because our bodies are really amazing and they can really heal themselves if they're, if they just if we just get the toxins out of them. I mean, you know we we talk about this all the time, inoki, right how toxic our environment is, our food, our air, water, everything.
Speaker 2:And so even if you're trying, you know, even if you're doing your best you know, you're still exposed to a lot I keep thinking, you know, because I started my nutrition program and really all I'm doing is limiting calories and now I'm at 182. And I was at 215. That's a lot of weight. That's a lot of weight, and all I did was change my diet. You know, all I did was change my diet, but Americans would just eat and eat and eat and eat.
Speaker 2:It's a comfort for us. You know, like most places don't even have, you know, food like that you know, or they do have food like that, but they eat small portions of it. You know over time or have it in, you know much smaller things. You know, like I don't know, you know, like I haven't really changed what I'm eating at all.
Speaker 2:You know, I just change the amount how much, yeah, you know, and and telling myself what I need and what I don't need and stuff, and like, just you know, losing that weight, you know what is?
Speaker 1:that 215 180 to that's uh almost 30 pounds right yeah, almost 30 pounds that's really I mean that's, I know it's awesome. I mean, I my my progress is going a little bit um, a little bit slower, but you know, I'm, I'm like it's been.
Speaker 2:It's been like six or eight, almost eight weeks.
Speaker 1:Next week it'll be eight weeks yeah but I mean like it's yeah yeah, but I mean, like I'm I'm 30 years older than you, so it's gonna take a little longer, but that's okay. That's okay because I'm doing all these other things and I think that naturally it'll it'll come off. I'm not really. I'm not really worried about it, but it is good, I'm 5 10 you know, yeah, well, that's, that's.
Speaker 1:I'm really tall yeah that's true, and I'm pretty short one, just I'm, uh you're, you're nine inches taller than me, but um you know, what you were, um, what you were talking about in terms of, like, how, how we eat in our country, right?
Speaker 1:so I have a funny story about that's related to this on this topic, and that is many years ago. I went in the late nineties. I went to the Dominican Republic with with my partner at the time and, and because she was Dominican, we got to go out into the country and we went to her hometown and it was probably one of the very best vacations I've ever had. It was just beautiful and the Dominican Republic is awesome. I love the people and it's a beautiful place. But, at any rate, where we were staying, you know, they all mostly spoke Spanish and it was. It was okay because she spoke Spanish and so, but they would many of the, the, the workers there. They would comment that I was rich, that I must be rich, and she would laugh and she would say no, and I would say what did they say? She said, well, they think you're rich. I said why would they think I'm rich? I don't dress any differently than you. And she said, well, they think you're rich because you're chunky.
Speaker 2:That's how culture was, though Only the royal people, only you know really wealthy people were overweight ever. Yeah, you know, or yeah, so yeah you go to a country.
Speaker 1:You know you go to a country like they go to most countries, and that's often why they assume that Americans. If you travel around the world, if you go to places in Africa or in Asia or whatever, they assume that Americans are rich.
Speaker 2:That's really why we're overweight.
Speaker 1:Oh, no, exactly.
Speaker 2:The poorer. The people are here the heavier they are because the more they're buying the cheap food that they can afford. Exactly, it's this irony it's only three bucks for a whole box of Twinkies because the more they're buying the cheap food that they can afford. You know, exactly, it's this irony. It's only three bucks for a whole box of Twinkies. I can eat two of them, and be full, you know Like I've been hungry, you know.
Speaker 1:But it's true, it's true. It's like it's so ironic that there would be this assumption Like.
Speaker 2:Crisco. It's not lard anymore, it's like oil.
Speaker 1:It's that there would be this assumption that it's not lard anymore and lard would be healthy. Crisco is not, but it's. It's so true that so there are, you know so, people around the world. They function on this, this old assumption that if you, if you, have extra weight on you, it's because you have extra riches to afford the food. But the irony of that is that is not true for Americans. We are made heavy by the toxic, processed, cheap food that we buy. You know the fast food. You know that we that we buy because it's cheap and you know we can feed the family on.
Speaker 2:Well, it used to be true and you know we can feed the family on. Well, it used to be true. I think, that the way that we're processing food, like we're eating this crap and this crap makes the fat, and then the fat is really the only thing feeding us from our own body.
Speaker 1:Yeah, the problem with that. You kind of need fat to burn fat and so if you don't have fat in your diet, like healthy fat in your diet, you might have a hard time losing weight. Most of us put on weight because there are all of these sugars, known and unknown, and undetected and snuck into our foods. So it's sugar, that kind of that, that makes us fat. But I also heard that there. You know that our fat holds a lot of toxins, so a lot of the toxins in our bodies are stored in our in our fat. Toxins in our bodies are stored in our fat and so when we lose weight we're also detoxing. But sometimes it can feel pretty crappy, like if someone loses weight very rapidly, what could happen is that their liver gets overloaded with all those toxins it's releasing, and that could be a problem.
Speaker 2:Losing weight too rapidly. Your body doesn't have time to adjust to losing weight either, you know. I think it's better to lose slow, over time, you know, because then, everything is kind of going with you. I was really surprised because I'd been overweight, since I had nidus, but I didn't have stretch marks, you know, and so I was thinking well when I lose all the weight, I'm probably going to have some stretch marks or whatever.
Speaker 2:But because I'm losing nice and slow, I haven't. I haven't had anything like that or had, you know, loose or or any of that stuff. My arms are tightening back up, which is that's nice.
Speaker 1:Muscle muscle tone. Yeah, there's something there again.
Speaker 2:That's awesome yeah, I mean I feel I feel really good, like, but all I did was limit the amount that I was taking in you know, and I started saying no to food. You know, because I'm with a feeder and I love that much food. Yeah, I was so poor. You know, like steaks? No, I wouldn't have steaks. And then we had so much steak. You know, I was eating steak like every day, you know like that's, that's crazy.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, but I love steak. I went like two years without having a steak. I love steak too. It was my favorite, you know. I always wanted it but I didn't have it. I didn't have the money for it and stuff like that, you know. And then I got like comfortable, like I was like, well, we got steak to eat every night. I'll eat.
Speaker 1:Now, what's what? Because I love talking steak. So what's your?
Speaker 2:favorite, my, your favorite my favorite steak, like favorite all-time steak, ever, yeah, um brazilian steak on the steak, oh really, yeah, I thought you were gonna say ribeye or porterhouse.
Speaker 1:I really did yeah, I like.
Speaker 2:I like steak that has a little bit of fat on it. You know, because I like the flavor of the fat. I don't like it when the fat is like too gooey. I like crispy fat, like blackened fat, you know. I like that a lot. I like marbly looking steaks.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean I love a good. You know I have a cast iron skillet so I love a good ribeye or porterhouse, I mean honestly. But you know, here's something that happened to nokia. I was just on the phone with my mother yesterday and she brought this up again. It does have to do with red meat. So I've always been working on my like, my, my health and my diet and like how to lose weight and everything. So I've tried all kinds of things, but around between 2020 and 2021. I got into the carnivore diet, you know.
Speaker 1:I had tried different things and I got into the carnivore diet and I started really seeing some success with losing my brother in law was doing that, and so was my aunt and uncle.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they all did that, yeah.
Speaker 1:And you know, and there are a lot of advantages to doing that. However, I was eating talk about eating steak every day. I mean like I was eating. Obviously I was eating red meat pretty much every day.
Speaker 1:Now my mother, my mother, has said because she's trying to my mom is funny, she tries to solve the mystery. So the mystery, the current mystery, is Pat was healthy and had no problems up until a couple of years ago when she had this little hairline fracture in her ankle, but then everything kind of went to hell and she's got rheumatoid arthritis. How did this happen? How did somebody who had been healthy for like 62 years no pain in their body, no issues, no medication, no, nothing whatever and now I had rheumatoid arthritis? So my mom's always trying to come up with these theories, and so one of her theories is that the carnivore diet may have caused too many crystalline deposits in my joints, like I might've it could have.
Speaker 1:Red meat can do that, she said, because it's acidic and it does this and she does all this research.
Speaker 1:It's like the carnivore you, being on the carnivore diet for a little over a year or two, may have caused this condition. Her other theory is that having COVID may have prompted something in my system, she said, because it just doesn't make any sense that all of a sudden, I mean like you're healthy and you have no nothing going on at all in your body and then all of a sudden, boom, like you're healthy and you have no nothing going on at all in your body and then all of a sudden, boom, you have this series of things that points to rheumatoid arthritis. So, anyway, that's, that's. One of her working theories is that, you know, the carnivore diet may have contributed to my rheumatoid arthritis and that I should have I should, I should have apple cider vinegar every day, she said, because that's going to dissolve those those things on your, on your, on your knuckles, and so I promised her that I would include that in my apple cider vinegar every day to help with the deposits on my knuckles every day.
Speaker 1:To help with the deposits on my knuckles, I've come to the conclusion that, when it comes to the way we eat, I honestly think that mixing these eating styles up is probably the healthiest thing.
Speaker 1:So there might be certain times of the year where it's awesome to be vegan or vegetarian, and then other times of the year where it may be better for our health and our bodies to be carnivore, and so that maybe the healthiest approach is not so much oh I have to be strictly vegan or oh, I have to be strictly vegetarian or oh, I have to be strictly carnivore, but to do a combination, to kind of move from one to the other and according to seasons, I think would be awesome, because there are times of the year where, you know, being a vegan or vegetarian makes more sense, and then other times of the year it makes more sense to have more of a meat, you know kind of a more meat-based um diet. So that's kind of the conclusion that I've come up with is like it's not just oh, do this or oh, do that forever, do this forever.
Speaker 1:But it's like, well, why don't you, um, do these different diets in different seasons?
Speaker 2:and so that's kind of how I feel about about the calorie count. You know, like like I, I can still have whatever I feel like I need whenever I need it, you know as long as I'm making sure that it's within the reason of what I'm supposed to consume in the day and there'll be a point where I'm gonna go up in calories like so I'm not gonna stay at the 1600 forever you know, this is to lose the weight, right?
Speaker 2:you know, um, but but then you know I'm, I'm not gonna have a need to eat.
Speaker 2:You know more than 2100 calories, you know which on average is what I burn in the day, so then I should be able to maintain whatever weight that I'm at then with a 2000 calorie diet, you know, and then I can still have like, if I feel like I really use something green right now, I can still have all the green things that I want, you know, and if I feel like man, I could really use some, you know, meat, or, or, you know, maybe I don't want that kind of protein, maybe I want more of like a whey, you know for energy or something you know like all right, I can have that you know like, but
Speaker 2:but, but then I'm not like, like I'm mind blown by it, you know, because, like I really wasn't expecting that to work at all, you know, like you know, and it is, it absolutely has. And my stomach is shrunk down and now my body's like expecting that amount, you know, it's not. It's not like I'm like, oh, I'm really hungry, or I'm fighting like a lot of cravings now, like because, like I started to get hungry and I'm like, oh, I'm really hungry, or I'm fighting like a lot of cravings now, because, like I started to get hungry and I'm like, nope, you're just bored, get up.
Speaker 1:You know walking around or doing something. It's true.
Speaker 2:Because I'm like no, you just had, you know, 200 calories, You're okay. You know you gotta wait, because later on you're going to want to eat too, and that's reasonable, but you haven't learned this yet.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and these are the kind of conversations we have to have with ourselves, Because sometimes you know it's like changing your relationship to food and being aware it's like why do I want to eat right now? I shouldn't, because I just ate. So what's going on? And, like you said, yeah, you're bored, Get up.
Speaker 2:You know having those conversations with ourselves.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, to kind of deprogram our psychology around food.
Speaker 2:It is. It's so embedded in our head. I just lay on the couch and eat some ice cream. Oh, I got the smart food popcorn, but I ate the entire bag. You know I don't think that works the same. You know, like that's where I've been. You know I've been doing all that stuff. I've been eating because I'm bored. You know I feed Nidus and then, you know, like he's growing, he's a child he needs a lot more than I need. I don't have to eat every time I feed him.
Speaker 1:Now, one thing that I've done and this really helps with reducing my caloric intake every day is that you know, I do the intermittent fasting Right, so I just kind of make sure that I go a certain amount of time between meals, you know. So my last meal might be at six o'clock and I might not have another meal until like two the next day. So that I've, you know, I fasted a good amount of time and sometimes that means that I'll have like a meal, or maybe a meal and a half a day, but that's okay and, again, that's cutting my calories.
Speaker 2:I think that's how I ate, like when I met you. You know I mean part of it was like instability, you know. But then there was this other part of it, where this how I ate my whole life you know, I didn't really live off much more than a sandwich or two in a day I eat about two meals.
Speaker 1:It's like this over overconsumption. It's like normalizing overconsumption. It's like how we think about houses they have to be big houses. How we think about cars they have to be big cars. How we think about now that that is changing to some extent, but it's like in the American culture it's like everything is supersized. You know, it's kind of like by the way that the supersized guy died recently, by the way, but, like you know, I think it was just my mom was just talking about that, you know.
Speaker 2:But the eighties, the eighties, you know the when when megas, the 80s, the 80s, you know the when when megas yes, megas hit, yeah, and then, the supers, and then and then extremes, you know like you know, mega centers and mega stores and fucking you know and mega consumption, that's all.
Speaker 1:Is this mega consumption everywhere, everywhere you go, like these big, huge stores you know to buy, you know everything became like a super, super, target, super, walmart super, this super, that, like you know, I think, I think we're all being pushed to really ascertain what, what our reality is and what, who, what do we trust and who do we trust? And the thing is, I think it really comes down to trusting ourselves. I think that we're really moving into a time when there's going to be so much disclosed that it's really going to be gobsmacking for most people when they see how much of our reality really isn't what they thought it was, how much of our history isn't really what we thought it was. How we feel about the authorities, right, like these, you know these authorities and these experts, and it turns out that most of that is bullshit. You know, like you know, you have Fauci, you know, at congressional hearings and he's just, you know, like everything that he said during the COVID pandemic was kind of bullshit and made up and it just appeared apparently.
Speaker 2:You know, like, whatever, like everybody has with everyone and yeah, all over. Yeah, I know you told me to go look up the weather and stuff.
Speaker 1:Oh, it's okay.
Speaker 2:I looked it up. There were some earthquakes in Georgia Yesterday like Okachobee got hit with like a super cell storm.
Speaker 1:And Florida was having a lot of issues with the rain.
Speaker 2:People were pulling over. They're like it doesn't look this bad in the video, but this is intense.
Speaker 1:And I'm a.
Speaker 2:Floridian, and then Dubai had like a pop-up thing or whatever, where people were being blown away. And it just started out of nowhere.
Speaker 1:Yeah, these wind storms, these winds that come through, it's crazy.
Speaker 2:Yeah, there's been some crazy winds with the thunderstorms, which there's always been a little bit of wind with thunderstorms, but it's never looked hurricane-ish you know I mean in Florida, like it pours it's sheet raining, but it's not a hurricane. There's a difference you know when you see the wind and the mist and the sheeting, you know, circulating in midair as it's moving, that's like hurricanes.
Speaker 1:That's what hurricanes do and that's weird.
Speaker 2:And that's what happened to Houston. And that's kind of like what happened through florida the other day, but it was little, they were like little cells you know, so, like the storm that went over lake okatobi was like this, just a little smaller than lake okatobi, so it wasn't huge. You know, um, it's a pretty small storm, but when it rolls up the top of those rim canals, man I mean the winds that it picks up going across that flat water is insane.
Speaker 2:And then lake okachobee is always like 10 to 15 degrees warmer than the ocean. So whatever the ocean's at like, lake okachobee is its own, like little mini hurricane maker yeah, you know, like any any storm that crosses Lake Okeechobee just explodes, and it can do whatever it wants to. It can make a complete U-turn twice, but Lake Okeechobee is that boomerang that it needs.
Speaker 1:I've also been hearing about tornadoes too. Have you been picking up on that? There's just all these tornadoes happening everywhere. There's so many tornadoes out in you been picking up on that, like there's all these tornadoes so many?
Speaker 2:tornadoes out in the midwest and out in oklahoma and texas. Texas is having weather that like yeah what the hell? I know what the hell when I was in texas it rained like a motherfucker in the spring. I remember just walking through mud. I remember thinking I thought fucking texas was a desert. What the hell is this?
Speaker 2:you know, houston is usually like spared from it, though houston's like drier and is like the desert. I was like way over in kilgore in the east part of texas. Georgia has me feeling a little betrayed, so like I've been more on like world weather than like my my area weather because they don't know what's happening here, ever, ever. This is like the vortex. They're like it's raining where you are and it's not. It's like sunny and shiny and they'll tell me that it's going to rain for three days straight and then it doesn't rain.
Speaker 1:But you know, speaking of reality and not knowing your reality and stuff, I just wanted to touch on remember. Before we started, before we went live, I was telling you about this story that I finally wrote.
Speaker 1:You know, and so I just wanted to say a few words about it, because it does have to do with that. So, back a couple months ago, when I mentioned to you and Taylor that I had had a dream about going through the process of writing a story and I thought it was such a delicious story, I wanted to write it, a story. And I thought it was such a delicious story, I wanted to write it. So I finally you know, because school's out now, so I've got some time I'm relaxing, thinking about it, getting into my imagination, getting those imaginative juices flowing, you know and so I wrote it. And what's what's interesting is that it's the backdrop for this. This it's a love story, you know, between these two people who meet in the most unusual way, um, but the backdrop is that the, the moon, has just, um, broken apart and of the sky, and so all of these people are having. There are people who are having a very strong response to it, like, oh, it's going to change everything. It may even change our capacity for love, because people associate the moon with our emotions. But then, on the other hand, you've got these, these individual people in the story who are having the experience of their lives being a little bit better without the moon and that what they, what they are experiencing, is the, the absolute beauty and power of the sun and sunlight, and that it's actually through the, their relationship with the sunlight, that they are falling in love. Um, and so that's kind of the backdrop to um this story. So I went through all of these different titles for it and I kind of came up with After the Moon Fell Away is the title of it.
Speaker 1:But these two characters Penelope is someone who works in an office and every day at the end of her day she doesn't stand in the bus stop where all of her colleagues are mostly talking about the drama and the craziness of the fact that 21 days ago the moon fell apart and fell out of the sky and the Navy had to shoot the bigger chunks so that it didn't hurt earth, and so it's fallen away and there's no more moon and you have all of these.
Speaker 1:You know people kind of freaking out, but penelope isn't freaking out. So, at any rate, she every day after work, instead of standing in the bus stop, she stands just outside the bus stop where the sun hits the earth in a very particular way, and she stands right, perfectly in this, in the shaft of sunlight, um and um and so, and always has her eyes closed so that she can absorb the sun, and the sun feels like a warm cat sprawled on her shoulders right and so that's kind of the image that she has, and so that's Penelope. So Penelope is not experiencing a problem with the moon not being there. Now she has the experience and she's. She always has her eyes closed, but now she has an experience of every day. She smells this very wonderful scent of tobacco, like pipe tobacco, that kind of wafts by her. She doesn't open up her eyes, but every afternoon she looks forward to this scent because she thinks it's the most beautiful scent, right and so I buy pipe tobacco just to open the bag and smell it oh my god, isn't it wonderful.
Speaker 1:And they're all these, these different signs.
Speaker 2:My Papa John.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's really, it's kind of like this, this manly kind of thing, but anyway, she, you know. So the days, the days go on and then she has this urge, this urge that she can't fight, to go to a local tobacco shop and find that blend right, and and, and. So she has this really interesting conversation with this old guy behind the counter who is dropping some knowledge about the moon, because he says, look at those guys over there. So you got all those guys sitting over in a corner and they're smoking their pipes and they're wearing tweed and they're talking about how the moon falling away is going to affect the stock market and everything that they're complaining. Moon falling away is going to affect the stock market and everything that they're complaining. And he's like you know, maybe not he's. And then he tells her, he tells her, he basically he asks her in their little conversation have you been to the beach? And she's like no, he said we still have tides. And so and this excites her it's like wow, we still have tides. So there's something. So there's a little bit of like what's going on? Because didn't the moon control the tides? Why do we still have tides? So it's this whole thing that's kind of unfolding, but anyway.
Speaker 1:So she has this delightful conversation with the guy behind the counter. Who's this old, jolly guy, you know, with like a white handlebar mustache, you know just kind of like who you would expect behind a counter in a tobacco shop. And so she gets this little tin of tobacco that is exactly what she thinks is what she's smelling in the afternoon and she realizes that she is almost like falling in love with the man who walks by, who she doesn't see, whose scent is mingled with this tobacco smoke. And so one day she's standing, as she always does, in the sun with her eyes closed, waiting for that waft of tobacco to walk by, because he walks by apparently every day and she feels a weight on her toe, and when she finally opens up her eyes there's a little kitten that has been left at her foot. And so she takes the kitten home.
Speaker 1:It's a little yellow kitten and she calls it sunshine. And of course, when the kitten comes home and she feeds it and whatever, it nestles up across her shoulder just like the sun. So anyway, the guy shows up and he's all apologetic because he realizes that maybe this was an imposition and he has assumed that she was blind because her eyes were always closed. So it's this whole awkward and wonderful interaction between the two of them. And she doesn't think that he's the man. She doesn't. He doesn't appear to have a pipe, but he's kind and so and she gets a little testy with him. So you dropped, so you left, like what a charity kitten for the blind girl. And he's like no, no no.
Speaker 1:It's weird, like when they finally talk, you know, and so she's assuming that it's not this man, and he asks her you know he wants to. He owns up to giving her the kitten but then apologizes and says if it's an imposition he'll take it back. And she said, no, no, it's perfect. At any rate, um, she doesn't think that he's him because there's no scent, right, and that's what she associated with Um. But he asked her out for, you know, like a couple of you know, you want to go down, for you know, there's a little cafe close by we can get a cup of coffee. And he extends his arm, you know, like to for her to hold on to his arm, and she doesn't take it because she's afraid that if the real man that she, you know, that she kind of smells every afternoon walks by and see, see, you know, she doesn't want the real man to see her with her arm, her, her hand, within another man's arm, and so she refuses.
Speaker 1:And so they walk to the corner and as they're waiting for the light to change it's really awkward moment, right, really awkward and he says, um, do you mind if I smoke? And so there's this wonderful scene at the end where she realizes that he is that it's him that it is him, you know, and so it ends.
Speaker 2:Oh, that's a cute little story. It's cute, isn't it? It's going to be awesome.
Speaker 1:But it's like from the backdrop of, like, this whole thing that's happened, you know, and there are some people like in the office and this in the tobacco shop that are really freaking out. How is this going to affect us? How is it going to affect life on Earth? Is it going to like what's it going to do to the stock market, all of these things? Are we going to keep going? But but then there are these people who kind of?
Speaker 1:kept going. Yeah, yeah, that were more influenced by the sunlight, and so it begs the question is it like, what has been more important? Has it been the sunlight? And of course we associate the moon with emotions and moonlight, but the moon doesn't have any light. It's always been the sunlight and of course, we associate the moon with emotions and moonlight, but the moon doesn't have any light. It's always been the sun. So, um, at any rate, that's kind of that's the story and um, I'm I'm working on it. I have the first draft done. Um and inoki, if you want me to um send, send you a copy of the story so you can kind of give some criticism.
Speaker 1:I would love that I'll send it to you, but at any rate. So that's the kind of writing. It's a little different, obviously, than what I've been writing, but I'm glad I took a break from writing and now I'm returning to it, and I'm kind of returning to it with different sensibilities, I guess, and different I don't know a different thought process that I'm bringing into the writing.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I like it. I like it. It sounds like really nice and sweet. Yeah, like I like the mystery and the accidental meaning. Yeah, I like that. I like the whole storyline. It kind of reminded me of like a true love story you know, like the Notebook or something you know. Yeah, like I love that movie. I watched that movie like 300 times.
Speaker 1:I mean we all want to believe in like true romance.
Speaker 1:Real, love Real love, how people really find each other. And what's interesting is sunlight like, like sunlight had to like. He thought she was so beautiful standing under the sunlight, and so he gazed on her every single day. She didn't know it, um, and of course, in her, her senses drew her to him like this, her sense of smell, like that tobacco smell that was mingled with his own, the scent of his skin and his hair, like there was it which he was drawn by, these natural ways of being drawn to someone, uh, without even it'd be cool if he asked her if she minds if he smokes and she pulls out the tobacco tin that she had.
Speaker 1:Well, what's interesting is that's how it ends it ends with her she doesn't pull it out.
Speaker 1:She doesn't pull it out, she squeezes the tin in her pocket and she puts her arm, she puts her hand in his arm. In other words, she's going to put her hand in, to put her, her hand in his arm as they step out into the street when the light changes, and she squeezes the little tin, the little tin of tobacco in her other pocket and says I'll never mind that. And that's how it ends. You know, like she's, you know so it's. It's so you get the impression that she will at some point give him the tin.
Speaker 1:And so they have had this inclination to give each other gifts. And so he gave her a little cat, and he didn't have any idea that the cat was actually something that she was imagining. She was imagining a cat across her shoulders and for some reason he had this urge to give her a cat, a little kitten that was yellow you know what I mean and that naturally crawled up her arm and rested on her shoulder, very much like how she imagined the sun to be in the afternoons. So he had no idea, but he was drawn by this urge, this urge to give her this gift, and he thought it was a crazy urge. He fought it. He said I had the cat for a week.
Speaker 2:In fact this is really crazy.
Speaker 1:Like he really did and they had to actually come back the next day and say look, and you know, I'm sorry.
Speaker 2:And she had the tobacco for like a week. You know exactly exactly.
Speaker 1:So it's kind of like that's too cool, yeah, and and I I just think, like, like love is, is can be natural, like that, it doesn't have to be artificial and so, um, and does the sun play a role in um, in that? For us, given that the sun is, um, you know, it's the source of all life, which means that is there a love connection there in the sun and not in the moon? You know so the whole, because when you fall in love.
Speaker 1:You feel like you've been reborn exactly exactly, and that's more sun related than moon related. So I it's just kind of like, it's just like this undercurrent about the moon in the background and kind of how we think about the moon and how we associate the moon with emotions and love. And is that really true, really, you know? Like is that? Is that really? You know, is it one of those? You know we were talking about reality? It's like, is this really real or is it something different? And so the people in the story are struggling with, like what, their reality, you know, and their reality being shaken up, but but not her name's, penelope. And so Penelope, you know, not, not Penelope, you know, and not this gentleman. So, at at any rate. So that's kind of those are the kinds of ideas that I want to play with in my writing now.
Speaker 2:I just want to great. That's a great story. That's a really awesome story. I like it oh well, I'm.
Speaker 1:Thank you, inoki, I'm gonna send you, I'm gonna send you the, I'm gonna send you a copy of it and please, please, please, be very critical, because this is just this is the first draft, and so you know, I welcome that, I'm going to send a copy to Taylor, to and maybe a couple of other folks and just get some feedback on on it. But, yeah, so this is the kind of story that I want to. I want to write now. I definitely want to write about love. I definitely want to write about real love like natural love like natural comings together in this really human, flawed, funny and sweet way. I mean, because that's kind of what it often looks like that's going to be awesome.
Speaker 2:I can't wait. I'm really excited to see I'll give you a good critique.
Speaker 1:Well, yeah, but tell me you know. Tell me the things that like, for instance, you know well, gee, I would have liked to have known more about this, or I felt like I was left hanging about that, or you know whatever it is, you know, like your experience as a reader.
Speaker 2:But I just feel like there's a little shift, you know, like you know, know it's kind of like if you do art and then there are changes in your life and then your art changes. And it's good, you know, when artists are real like that and they change with their life, you know, because, like, when you limit them to that one space that they were in, they're not going to be in that one space forever. I mean, well, do you do.
Speaker 1:Do you feel that you were very prolific with your music and now you know you've taken a break, right, you had your son. There have been these changes in your life and now you're, you're getting ready to return to to your music, to songwriting and singing, and I was wondering, like, do you see? Like that there are. Can you already see the changes in your own musical expression?
Speaker 2:I don't think I've ever done anything with the purpose of being that. You know, like, like, I just kind of am, and whatever I'm being while I am is you know.
Speaker 1:And I think that's what it is with me.
Speaker 2:It's. You know, I love writing and when I write I write real and you know, real like real emotion, you know, and so I have good writing. And when I'm playing music, you know I'm playing and I'm playing with real empathy and feeling.
Speaker 1:Well, I think it's just. Whatever it is you're doing is just an extension of you at that moment.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:And sometimes it's got to be written, sometimes it's got to be, sometimes it's got to just be, sometimes it's got to be, sometimes it's got to just be. You know, I've never really been successful at doing one thing. You know, I've been really successful at doing a lot of different things, but like it's not necessarily like a jack of all trades, you know, because, like, I do find ways to master the things that I do when I do them, um, but but it's kind of like a jack of all trades where you know it's just I'd like to just do one thing, but I'm not made that way you know, yeah, not made for for that specific.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I never played music because, like I wanted to be a musician, I played music. Because I wanted to play music, I wanted to hear what my heart was telling me, I needed to heal and I wanted to sing the things that I wanted into fruition you know, and I wanted some of the things that I sang to make me see it from an outside view so that I could process it.
Speaker 2:You know, and same with writing. I think writing was the same way you know. And same with writing. I think writing was the same way you know, like I didn't strive to be a poet and have, you know a full composition out anywhere ever. You know, I just wrote because I couldn't play and I couldn't play what I wanted to sing and I couldn't heal myself without doing both of those but well, I think that's a really great note to end on today.
Speaker 1:Um this has been yeah, this has been a lot of fun. I'm so excited about your, your homestead project and getting updates on on what's, so you know. So when we, when we talk next week, you'll it'll have, it will have arrived, and so we get to kind of see it in the process.
Speaker 2:So I'm really looking forward to that oh, my goodness, I didn't tell you all right real quick. I have sat in probably a thousand different patches looking for a four leaf clover my whole life. I was cutting down a tree that was over the driveway and I was tired and I just sat down on the grass and I looked down in front of me and I'm like, wow, that's a really weird looking. Oh my god, it's a four leaf clover. I found my first four leaf clover. That's a really weird looking. Oh my god, it's a four-leaf clover. I've found my first four-leaf clover that's awesome ever just the other day.
Speaker 1:Well, that's awesome it is a big deal and usually and um usually, taylor will pull a card to give us some inspiration going into the next week. She wasn't here, um, but you found a four-leaf clover.
Speaker 1:So, we're going to go with that. We're going to go with that Going into the next week. We'll have great blessings coming our way, even if our world seems chaotic. You know, like with the characters of that story it might've been like all kinds of things were falling apart. But there you know, to be able to find true love in the midst of that right is.
Speaker 2:Still here, still existing, still existing, still carrying on amidst the chaos.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah, still being blessed in many different ways. So we'll go with the inspiration of the four-leaf clover going into the next week.
Speaker 2:thanks, all right I love you.
Speaker 1:Love you too. Have a great week, too. Have a great week everyone, thank you.