Patti Talks Too Much
Hi. I'm Patti and it's been said - many times - that I talk too much. I'm a teacher, author, nature lover and for ten years I owned a coffeehouse cafe where my faith in the goodness of humans was restored every day. This podcast highlights the awesomeness of humanity - er...outside the warmongers, globalists, tyrants and politicians in general. You know, the rest of us weird, quirky and sometimes hilarious humans.
We'll talk woo, probe mysteries and leave you thinking about something more interesting or entertaining or uplifting than your grocery list, or boss or that oil change your car needs.
I talk too much because I can't help my Gemini moon and Leo Rising nature. I do a podcast because it's cheaper, funnier and more productive than therapy.
Patti Talks Too Much
Cravings Decoded, Max Patch Adventures, and the Clash of Medicine Worlds
Have you ever wondered why your body craves certain foods at specific times? Join us for a captivating episode where Patti opens up about her fixation on blackberries and sweet potatoes, revealing how such cravings may be our body's way of signaling what it needs. Taylor takes us on a breathtaking journey to Max Patch in North Carolina, sharing stories that make you feel the beauty and uniqueness of this stunning mountain bald. Together, we celebrate the joy of connecting with nature and the importance of seasonal foods for our well-being.
We then switch gears to tackle the often controversial world of healthcare, examining the contentious relationship between natural remedies and the pharmaceutical industry. Personal stories shed light on the challenges of advocating for holistic treatments in a profit-driven medical system. The episode emphasizes the power of self-education and making informed health decisions, especially post-COVID-19. We discuss the merits and drawbacks of both Western medicine and natural remedies, calling for more holistic research to understand how they can complement each other.
Our journey continues as we explore the broader impacts of education, technology, and hidden histories on our society. From the flaws exposed by remote learning during the pandemic to the mysteries of ancient technology and potential extraterrestrial and interdimensional beings, we leave no stone unturned. We wrap up with an inspiring look at the industrious nature of bees and their healing power, encouraging listeners to align with their vibrant energy. Tune in for a thought-provoking episode that will have you contemplating the world around us and beyond.
Good morning and welcome to the Saturday live stream. This is Patti, with Patti Talks Too Much. I'm here with dear friend Taylor and we were just talking about. Anokhi isn't going to be joining us today because it's a big day for her. She's getting her. What are we calling it, taylor?
Speaker 2:Her house is something in the mail.
Speaker 1:So her house, which is basically the shell of a house that she's going to build out, but that's being delivered today and it's also her son's birthday, so it's a really big, big, big day. I think it's kind of exciting that they're having their house delivered on the on night.
Speaker 2:It's always like happy birthday night is right this is what this is what you get.
Speaker 1:This is the biggest playhouse ever he's gonna love, I love it, I, I absolutely love it.
Speaker 2:So that's wonderful new day.
Speaker 1:Blessings, loves, yes yeah, and what a beautiful morning too. I mean it really has been. It's sunny, it's sunny here, it's gorgeous here. Uh, it really it's been, it's been really really it looks like a gorgeous Tennessee summer day.
Speaker 2:It looks like I should be on my way to the river yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:Well, you guys have been spending. I've seen the pictures. You guys have been spending a lot of time out in the you know, out in nature oh, patty.
Speaker 2:So there's this place, um, in North Carolina that I've had friends tell me about for years, since I've moved here and I hadn't had a chance to go indulge myself in this place. Oh, patty, it's called Max Patch. It's called Max Patch and essentially it is a mountain bald on the very tippy, tippy top of this gorgeous range in North Carolina, outside of Pot Springs, and you drive up these windy roads, you know all the way up these windy roads, and so you climb this steep hill.
Speaker 1:Right, so you were saying the windy hill, the windy roads, all the way to the top? Yeah, and you find yourself and is it to the top, top of the mountain.
Speaker 2:It's a loop trail, but the loop trail takes you. Yeah, You're on the top of this range and you can just see out. The view is mountain ranges in all directions. You're just surrounded by waves of Blue Ridge and then you're also encompassed by this giant wild, almost like prairie-esque plateau. It's called a mountain bald, essentially, but it's the meadow on top of a mountain. It's absolutely stunning.
Speaker 1:How do we say that?
Speaker 2:mountain bald, bald yeah, it's not forested, it's. It's like a natural meadow and the ecosystem is just, it's phenomenal, it's its own ecosystem up there yeah, yeah, and you wouldn't believe the deers that are on the tops of the mountains. I mean, they were blackberry. I'm covered in scratches because you know, I had to go travel through the blackberry brambles did you?
Speaker 1:were you able to pick any wild blackberries um?
Speaker 2:they were not all the way ripe yet, but I was very cautious to do so because my mama bear instinct was kicking in and we're in black bear country, so they can have their blackberry they can have.
Speaker 1:Let me tell you, okay. So I have to tell you this. I'm so glad you brought it up. I, girl, I don't know what's going on with me, but I go, go through these, these rips where, like, there's just a certain food that I want to eat and that's just all I want to eat, right, and then I get sick of it and then I stop. You know, so Kind of ADHD of you, but okay. I don't know if it's that, because you know I'm like it's just something that we do I'm not an aid on a certain food.
Speaker 1:Well, it's been blackberries for me, Interesting. I had. I cannot get enough black. I mean I eat an insane amount of blackberries now I don't know what it is. And so there was like well, you are a bear. I know that's what I was thinking. It's like my bear spirit is coming out, and you know just like blackberries, it's season.
Speaker 2:I want to eat all these blackberries.
Speaker 1:So and I've got, I got. So I've been doing blackberries and blueberries, but I find that it's the blackberries that have dominated. Like I you know, the blueberries can sit in the fridge for a while. The blackberries don't even make it home.
Speaker 2:Well, it it's interesting. The blackberries definitely have more antioxidants, but my first immediate thought is it's just interesting the way that nature coincides with us. So when we, when you're connected enough to your body, your body tells you exactly what you need yeah and blackberries are something that you need right now yeah, you know what's another one.
Speaker 1:Yes, so I can. Um, I can. I guess I'll just share all of my weird, my weird, weird quirks. Sweet potatoes well, you've always loved sweet potatoes. I know I've always loved sweet potatoes, but I go through my, my kicks, and so it's been. I tell you the the foods that I'm eating now mostly sweet potato turkey, broccoli, blackberries. I was like I could just eat those things. Now it's so weird.
Speaker 1:Really great color variation though it is, it's, it's a nice color variation. Yeah, um, and I just don't know what it is, but I, you know, I kind of just, kind of just I, I, I make note of it. I might laugh at myself. It's like there you go, you can't even get the blackberries home, you can't wait to put them in your mouth.
Speaker 1:Can't even get them home, and so that's why I buy a lot of them, because I know that some of them are going to be eaten before I even get home. But but yeah, those are the, those are the foods, and then I'll move on. And then I'll move on to something else. Like for a while there was fish. All I wanted to do was eat fish. Now, I'm not into fish. Now, I mean, I've got fish in the freezer. I'm not into it.
Speaker 1:You know, so it's turkey. So I don't know, I really don't know and I don't really question. I just kind of laugh and think, well, this is kind of what it looks like now. So, but the blackberries definitely I got a big kick out of, because I know we've talked about bear spirit, you know bear being my, my totem and you know me kind of having having definitely embody that yeah yeah, so at any any rate, I thought you would enjoy that but, um, yeah, that was the other thing.
Speaker 2:The medicine on the top of this mountain was so abundant, so you had the blackberries, but what else?
Speaker 1:what else was up there? Oh, you see, you're the herbalist, so you would be able to identify all of the different things, other medicines that are up there. So what was, uh, what was up there?
Speaker 2:well, I'll just trudge people up the mountain and be like you have to stop right here. You're gonna need to taste this. I'm gonna need you to observe this plant with me. Um, so yarrow, yarrow. It was, um in bloom, and I love seeing yarrow in bloom, but yarrow is always good to know that it's on the trail when you have kids, or isn't it good for people?
Speaker 1:easily injured yeah, scrapes and bruises.
Speaker 2:It's actually an anticoagulant. It actually stops bleeding. You can take a piece of yarrow and shove it in your nostril and it will.
Speaker 1:It'll stop it, just bleed now is am I mistaken in um associating yarrow it might be something else with um fairy energy, or is that mallow? Oh for for sure I think so, Yarrow mallow.
Speaker 2:Okay, all right. Yeah, yarrow is also known as like the a million leaves, because it almost grows like fern-esque. The leaves Ornate no, not ornate. I can't remember the name of the leaf, but so it's a stem.
Speaker 1:But it's many, many, many, many different tiny leaves.
Speaker 2:Yes, kind of like thyme and then, yes, but more fern-like, more pointed all the way out and jagged. Wonderful plant. You can smoke it. There's multiple benefits for it. So that was great to see. Um coltsfoot, which is really good for the lungs. Um, of course, blackberry leaf tea is wonderful for you, in case you're you know, I'm sure that there's okay but um, just um.
Speaker 1:So we know the benefits of blackberries but, like the leaf, separate benefits. If you dry the leaf and make tea, absolutely, and what would the benefits be for, do you know? For blackberry leaf?
Speaker 2:tea the leaves. You would tea them, okay, you would tea them, okay, okay. So I want you to think um the same with with most, um berry leaves, strawberry leaves, etc wonderful vitamin c, raspberry vitamin c, yeah, yeah flavonoids so they're good for cleansing.
Speaker 2:I've heard like the raspberry leaf and yeah, and then they do this other thing where um mouth ulcers, um mouth gums or throat, because it's got the astrogens and the tannins um, but you know, tannins can cause sensitivities in some people, so you do have to be aware of that, but um indigenous people um would use that as a mouthwash blackberry that's interesting.
Speaker 2:Um, even the roots can be used. Um, but the leaves and roots can be used. But the leaves and roots can be used for diarrhea, for regulating menses, for anemia. I mean the things that are surrounding us every day. There's so many wonderful, wonderful benefits to the weeds that grow around us that we don't consider to be medicine yeah, so you had blackberry, you had yarrow.
Speaker 1:Was there anything else you noticed up in?
Speaker 2:this area, I mean.
Speaker 1:I'm sure there was a lot.
Speaker 2:Oh man, sassafras, which is? You know, it's actually invasive, but wonderful.
Speaker 1:Now, does sassafras grow into a tree? It does, it's a tree.
Speaker 2:Now sassafras are great because they grow in these funny shapes, the, the leaves, the way that you identify a sassafras.
Speaker 1:We can't miss it in fall, because in fall they are the most flamboyant, vibrant, red um the leaves there's like a whole thing about how, like sassafras was prohibited, like yeah, like they were prohibiting sassafras, and it's kind of like well, why it's so good for us.
Speaker 2:The same. I'll tell you why. I'll tell you why it's the same with comfrey and quite a few other medicines. What happens is you have to understand that everything is run by pharmaceuticals. And you already know that scientists are paid to research plants. They're paid by the pharmaceutical companies. They're paid by pharmaceutical companies.
Speaker 1:Bastards.
Speaker 2:And so these controlled instances in which they're using their studies are based on non-realistic elements and mass amounts of the plant, so much so that it would cause harm. That it would cause harm, so much so that, as an herbalist, I would never, ever prescribe or recommend that much of anything. You know, comfrey is a wonderful medicine, these are wonderful medicines, but if you were told to take them, a doctor would be like absolutely not. Those can cause harm to your liver etc.
Speaker 1:How?
Speaker 2:much do you drink? I want to be like how much do you drink at night, sir? Yeah, yeah, exactly what kind of damage is it doing to my liver in conjunction, you know, with the small amount that I'm using? Or, you know, he wouldn't even be able to tell me. A doctor wouldn't even be able to tell you because there is no scientific evidence other than the controlled, you know experiment that was done, and the controlled experiment that was done was such an excessive amount that, yes, it causes issue.
Speaker 1:Can you imagine if they tested all drugs like that?
Speaker 2:I was at a doctor's office when we were at st jude. I was recommended to go there for my anxiety. It's funny, everyone at st jude has anxiety our children have cancer, right?
Speaker 2:so I go to meet with this doctor. It was the only doctor was like the everything doctor and I needed a, a woman's health. I just needed my iud removed and replaced. It was like I can't get pregnant. While I'm asking you so long of the short, I get diagnosed with severe anxiety by this doctor and he starts to suggest these medications to me. Um, when he brought in um the suggestion, I said to him um, I actually use herbal remedies and I use a specific herbal plants as medication. I'm not interested in an anti-anxiety medication or an anti-depressant at this point thank you good for you what do you say back in?
Speaker 2:with a lot of paper, this fat, I still have it because it's like a little trophy, a little herbalist trophy of mine the hepatic effects of herbal medicine. This man had went and printed out an entire fucking book talking to me about plants that I hadn't even listed. He didn't even know what I was taking. I mean, I could have told him, like I'm taking mimosa, and he would have been like oh you're drinking mimosas. I mean fucking fools.
Speaker 2:No, like I'm taking mother's work. Okay, not a clue Hepatic, uh, immediate, immediately, this giant pamphlet on the negative effects on your liver, right? And so I looked him square in his eyes and I said that's wonderful. Thank you so much for this really valuable information. Sir, I would like for you to now go print out the same paperwork for the drugs that you're trying to prescribe me. Oh well, that'll take some time, will it? I've got all day Because I'd love to sit here and read it Honestly.
Speaker 2:Honestly I really would so. Sometimes that was my way of sticking it to the man in the moment, but it was just a perfect example of somebody who is familiar with natural remedies and the way that it's gothed at by the medical industry.
Speaker 2:And knowing what I know, now, you couldn't bully me. This is why I made friends with pharmacists and I made friends with oncologists and I let them know. Hey look, I know the contraindications of this medication, but I also know that I can give this herbal supplement to my child. So why don't you sit down and have a discussion with me about what I can give him and what I can't can the contraindications of? Such so much so that I earned and gained the respect of these individuals and that they actually were in a place where they could teach me and educate me on things that I wanted to give my child, um, that weren't going to be prescribed to him. And we have that power. We have that power. We have the power to be like you know what I'm taking this and this and do doing your own research, you know yeah, and you know, taylor, I mean there's, there's.
Speaker 1:I think that there are not enough people who do that and unfortunately, sometimes we have to be in um kind of a between a rock and a hard place and then we start doing that, but most people will defer to the, the doctor and to these authorities, and I honestly think that we are on the very edges of people on mass saying no, no to the medical system. I honestly, I I swear in the next few years that their, their authority will. They will have no authority over us and I think that we're going to see some interesting new things emerging that are much more natural and less pharmaceutical based, and I think the pandemic really brought many people to the edge. It's like what the hell?
Speaker 2:is going on here.
Speaker 1:Yeah, exactly Lied to by these authorities. I mean like Fauci in front of Congress, carrying on the way that he carried on. What a joke and what a bastard. And people saw that it's like you don't really care about us at all. We are all beagles to, because you know. You heard what he did. You heard about the experiments that his organization did with beagles, right? No, you don't want to know. You don't want to know, but at any rate.
Speaker 2:So it was just a terrible, terrible experimentations, and so and you know I would have really rebelled against all of that. I had my son not just survived cancer and had a full liver transplant, and I was so concerned with his safety, um, and and coming out of him not having an immune system and having this liver transplant, and it was still so new to us. This new normal is what we were told to call it, you know, but it was like I can't chance this, I can't risk this. I mean I quit my job, I, but yeah, fuck the covid and all of the drama that it brought and let people see the truth, let people come to their own realizations. And let me stand corrected. I will stomp on Western medicine, but it still has its place. It does.
Speaker 1:Oh, it does have its place, oh yeah, but you know the way how it has been brought to this extreme, where profit is the bottom line our health is not the bottom line, profit is the bottom line. Then we have to use such a degree of discernment when we're dealing with pharmacy. We really have to do our homework, like you have, and like you know and I have, and we have to ask questions, and there are still a lot of people who, especially when they're afraid and they're feeling vulnerable, they don't want to question these authorities. I had a similar experience when I was sitting in with my doctor and I was telling her well, I'm going to approach this, I have this approach for this arthritis that I'm dealing with and I'm going to do a series of cleanses. I'm going to start with a parasite cleanse and then I'm going to do a liver cleanse and a colon cleanse. And she said oh, parasites, you don't have to worry about parasites. I said why is that? Well, because we live in the West and that whole parasite thing.
Speaker 2:That's just it's just in the water.
Speaker 1:and third world countries yeah, I mean that's, it's just a, it's just a social media fad, and I said no, no, it's from.
Speaker 2:Do you eat? Meat yeah, I mean I'm sorry what?
Speaker 1:and I and I told her. I said it's, it's a. You know I'm following a naturopath and she was able to heal her rheumatoid arthritis by doing a series of cleanses. So I read her book and I think well, this is what I would do that. I.
Speaker 2:This is what I'd like now you're looking, yeah, like a complete wackadoo and you've lost the doctor's respect. Because you don't, there's no necessity for her services.
Speaker 1:She, she ended up. She said, well, I'm going to prescribe this one thing and you know you can choose to take it or not. And she, you know what it was. And I just she, she had no idea that I knew exactly what it was. But hydroxychloroquine, I was thinking that's an anti-parasite, it's a pharmaceutical anti-parasite. It was one of the you know, one of the things that supposedly was effective in treating COVID along with ivermectin.
Speaker 1:You know the two things that people. You know that that um the industry one just was railing against um hydroxychloroquine. And then when I went to um a rheumatologist, she recommended hydroxychloroquine and she said the reason is is because it's the mildest medication I can give you and it's the safest. Is because it's the mildest medication I can give you and it's the safest. It's the safest medication I can give you. I thought, oh, this is interesting because, gee whiz, a few years ago that's not what I was hearing about hydroxychloroquine it's bleach. It's bleach. They want us to drink bleach, you know, like all kinds of crazy stuff.
Speaker 1:But, it's very, very safe, just like ivermectin. But I do think that this whole parasite thing there's something to it Like why is the whole medical establishment there's almost like this digging their heels in refusal to look at the possibility of parasites being a problem behind many of the imbalances and ailments that we have? Why is there kind of like parasites don't exist in the West, when that's not they very much do yeah Very much do.
Speaker 1:Most of us have parasites to one degree. Now, is it South Sudan? No, but you know they still haven't had a lot of opportunity to say, hey, listen, I'm going in this direction. You know, I haven't been in that position, so it was really interesting to have that experience with my doctor.
Speaker 2:Yeah, for sure, For sure, and there's this part of me that's like you know. I think about Phoenix and the medication that he has to take every day for the rest of his life, and I think that just doesn't seem fair. You know, of course Are there plants that can regulate your body to not reject a transplant. Well, interestingly enough, there are very, very little studies for contraindications on herbal medicine with any anti-rejection medicine.
Speaker 2:It's called Prograf, or tacrolimus is what Phoenix takes. And there's a part of me that it's like there's got to be some fucking scientist with money who gives a shit, like there's just got to be right. There's got to be somebody doing this fucking research. Well, the thing is, it's like we live on planet earth and nobody's doing the fucking research on the plants. What we want to do is we want to separate the alkaloids from. Stop separating the plant.
Speaker 2:The plant is exactly plant medicine I tell people this about weed all the time the cbd, the thc stop, it is one medicine. Yeah, it's the whole. Those things go together. They are meant to not be pulled apart. Right, you need the entirety of that particular plant to receive the full embodiment of what that plant gives you. The plant spirit shouldn't be ripped to shreds before you ingest it or inhale it. Yeah, that's right. And a lot of times, a lot of times, the alkaloids. These are the things they're testing. They're not testing the whole plant.
Speaker 2:And that's another reason why things like com free are taken out of context, right. So there was one particular thing, though, that I thought was really interesting, that I guess they learned by accident, because again, nobody's doing this fucking research for anti rejection meds, or for any medication for that matter. And it's funny to me because people so easily forget, patty, that every medicine, every fucking pill you take, originally from nature, from a plant.
Speaker 2:It came from nature. It came from something. Yeah, the idea of it came from something in natural nature and they just created a synthetic version aspirins from a fucking willow tree.
Speaker 2:I mean, these things already exist in nature. So it was interesting to me that, um, one of the things that I was told absolutely not do not give your child cbd. This was interesting to me as an herbalist. I say, why? Well, I'll give you an example.
Speaker 2:The liver transplant coordinator says to me okay, great, there was a man that they had been taken care of fresh out of transplant, been taken care of fresh out of transplant, doing wonderfully, healing well, and a friend, he had not been able to smoke weed since his transplant. He was, I guess, a heavy smoker and or he took CBD for arthritis or something along those lines. So, long of the short, somebody came to visit this man in the hospital while he was in recovery and they gave him cbd gummies and he ate them and within hours, what happens with that particular plant and these drugs is it exponentially increases the amount of that drug in your system, right, which is fascinating to me. So there is a specific range that you're supposed to be at for this medication or damaging, severely damaging, to your kidneys. You've got between four to six.
Speaker 2:This man ate these gummies and shot into the 40s. His medication level was in the 40s. So he was in like we're going to go into renal failure soon, type shit. But I just found that so fascinating. So what if in my mind not that I would ever, you know I had to sign contracts that make sure that Phoenix is taken care of in a specific way and I cannot experiment with my child? But it made me wonder what if that plant alone could work as an anti-rejection medication?
Speaker 2:if it's rising an anti-rejection medication that high now. These medications are also already damaging to the body. Long-term use is already going to affect my kid's kidneys, right. What if he could take a much smaller dose of medication in conjunction with CBD and hit a note? That was. You know what I mean. There are so many different aspects of it that I'm just like it's really, really sad. It's really sad that that there is no research on these kinds of things.
Speaker 1:Well, I mean, when you think about first of all, like any scientist who's doing research, first of all they need the money to do the research, and then they want to be published, and the problem is is that they get roadblocked on both, even if they have the funding. Yeah, even if they have the funding um a lot of these, um medical journals, and we saw that through covid too, there were people doing research I stayed real fucking quiet during that time, patty, because I'm like you're going to fucking sue me for anything.
Speaker 2:I you know everybody was really big into immune boosting drugs, and so I, my job, then became no, don't do that to your body. Everybody's, you know. You can go to the farmer's market today and go buy a bottle of elderberry syrup, because elderberry syrup has become this super trendy thing to do. This is, this is when we take joke herbalism as a joke, because it's not a fucking joke. This is what I mean when I say they're. Oh well, I'm taking this because it's good for my immune system. Full stop, the worst thing you could have taken during covid yeah, what's that?
Speaker 2:a disease that is attacking the philip, the philia in your lungs. Right, it's making you have more of an immune response, which has been having your lungs damaged further, because the immune response is what was giving these results, right? So everybody's taking all of these immune boosting drugs like to keep from getting COVID, but everybody's going to get COVID anyways. And now your immune system is on such high alert that your body's attacking itself and this is where you're getting that long COVID and these terrible lung issues.
Speaker 2:So I was going around and listing all of these herbs it was aromatic herbs out phlegm, your marshmallows and marshmallow root not real marshmallows people. There were so many herbs that could have been used preventatively without affecting the immune system in such a way that would have given relief during COVID, and so that was essentially what my job became during that time. But, moreover, what I found so interesting was I spent all this time so worried about my son, worried about my immunocompromised child, that when he got COVID, he got COVID, he got COVID again, he got COVID again. Um, within like a four or five month time frame, he caught it three times. Well, he was asymptomatic, every time, very mild symptoms, and I finally was able to speak to his transplant doctor, like his actual liver transplant doctor, and I said I have to tell you.
Speaker 2:I do find it quite interesting that my son's not having a response. Could it be because he's taking medications to hinder his immune system's ability taking medications to hinder his immune system's ability that his immune system is not affected as much? Covid isn't registered in him because his immune system isn't like attack. So the doctor responded yeah, after long studies, what have you? We have realized that people with no immune systems aren't affected as badly by COVID, and I just found that to be fascinating and such a fucking waste of two years that I hid my children away in a cave trying to keep them all healthy. Like, looking back, I realized how absolutely asinine all of that was. Like looking back, I realized how absolutely asinine all of that was. Yeah, yeah, but in the moment I was just really in protective mode. I had a sick kid, we had just gone through something so traumatic, um and so now I feel like you know, people are finally getting back out into the world and and healing can finally begin, because, fuck, that affected the collective nervous system absolutely that was true.
Speaker 2:That was a collective trauma, it was fucking trauma. It was trauma and I really feel for our kids, you know, because it fucked them up a little bit socially, socially, socially, kids all over the world lost years of their life and and their developmental stages.
Speaker 1:It's gonna take a long time to recover.
Speaker 2:Yeah, man, yeah, yeah, yeah, I have my kids in therapy and I hope that they talk about that time and you know, it know we saw a lot of. You know the school system took a big hit because parents were like I don't think my kids made for online school, yeah. So many parents were like this isn't going to work and so many parents were like the school system is fucked too.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, Parents really got to see close up and personal what's going on in the classroom and I think that that was that was really good. I mean, it was really an eye opener. I have to say that there were some teachers that I was working with who said, when we went virtual, they said this is, this is the future. So might as well start the future now.
Speaker 2:The future is going to be all online? Who?
Speaker 1:gives a shit. Yeah, but they were like this because they believe that the future is like all online, that you know we're not, we don't, we're not going to need buildings and classrooms anymore, it's just going to be all online. And then what happened was we realized it's like oh my goodness it's, this is a, this is an absolute failure. What happened? And we're trying to get fish to climb a tree, you know like it's. It's just, it was. It was an absolute failure. So there were a lot of people who were like, who were more like tech focused, like technology is the future of education, and I do think like technology definitely has a role in the future of education, if education itself has a future. I mean, that's a whole other discussion, but the that, what, what happened in COVID? And, of course, because I teach high school, you know it was like you were basically teaching to ceiling fans. That was your classroom interaction. So they, you know, I mean, and they're teenagers, so they're, they're going to be like this is, this is awesome.
Speaker 1:You know, I get to kind of just go and do whatever the fuck I want, whatever, whatever I want, and just have my camera pointed, pointing at at the ceiling. So I don't. I don't think that another pandemic is going to fly, but there was a lot that was exposed during that time and I think that education in our country is, I mean, just like the medical system, like you know how much it's on the verge.
Speaker 2:It's totally on the verge. It's totally on the verge of collapse. And with things like forest schools. There's a wonderful forest school locally that a friend of mine helps run. It's called Seed Keepers and year round, even in the winter, they're in an outside classroom sitting by a fire. They're in an outside classroom sitting by a fire, learning something that has completely indulged all their senses and the nature around them.
Speaker 1:Absolutely. There you go and these are things.
Speaker 2:How many logos can your kids name? You can show your kids logos without words on them. Your kid's going to know McDonald's. Your kid's going to know all of these things television shows, channels, whatever, etc. Now put five trees. Five trees in front of them.
Speaker 1:Yeah can they?
Speaker 2:tell you what kind of trees those are? That happened. Can they tell you what types of things are in the world around you? Naturally, that could save your life, or that could be used as food, or that can be used in any instance for anything? No, no, we're teaching our kids everything except spirituality. While science is bustling forward in this direction of energetic knowledge right, but we're not teaching our kids that fuck. We're not even teaching our kids how to do taxes or how to live as an adult, as an adult in this world, or how to cope emotionally. We're not teaching kids any of that. We're teaching them how to follow a line.
Speaker 1:We're teaching them how you know to be good workers well, that was the rockefeller school system, that was the whole point to it, the entire point to it.
Speaker 2:Go look at who invented textbooks. It'll shock you. Yeah, it's a fucking setup. Yeah, yeah, now I say all of this, my kids are still in public school. But trust and believe, I also educate my children. You're going to get two sides to this story and then you're going to come up with your own ideologies, make up your own mind, but I'm certainly not going to send you to school on christopher columbus day uh, you know and to go learn about a man who was a murderer, rapist. We're not.
Speaker 1:We're gonna educate you but I think, like in the future, the so much of our history is is going to be unveiled and people are just going to be gobsmacked about what our true history is and what existed here in the, in the West already, and I'm excited. I'm excited for our young people to be learning about things like Tartaria, the things about how there were civilizations that had free energy, and how all of that changed when you had these folks who wanted to harness energy and then sell it to us when it should have always have been free. You know, and that's one of the things that bothers me about, like Tesla, the car being named after Tesla, it's like that's that's a Tesla would be rolling around in his grave Because Teslas have to be plugged in to the same grid that Tesla himself was working against.
Speaker 1:He was an Etherian, so he believed that there's all this electricity in the ether and that's why there are know, like there are. There are so many photos that have been scrubbed, like you know, those the things that look like blimps, you know, but that was like that was air travel and they would hook up to to be charged on buildings, that where they got their, they got their electrical charge and there was like all of this stuff and it really wasn't that long ago, but it's been.
Speaker 1:It's been scrubbed and you know how like I think was it last week or the week before you were talking about like how every hundred years there's like a reset and and I honestly you know, the first thing we do in a war is we burn the fucking libraries yeah, it's like we don't even have to be in a war we burned that fucking church.
Speaker 2:Remember that one of the oldest you know libraries in the world inside of that one particular church. It was like four or five years ago. Why don't you do?
Speaker 1:what, what country?
Speaker 2:what country?
Speaker 1:was a huge deal oh god where was it? Where was it? I'm? I believe you know, I believe you and I probably italy, or france, I don't know, it was in europe.
Speaker 2:It was a very old cathedral that had ancient libraries, ancient books gone well, you're doing it in palestine right now yeah, they do it every time yeah, in the end in that, yeah, you're going to eradicate that history, because there's a lot of history there when we went into um iraq, right in that whole region, right um, I remember talking with and and I I didn't really get it at first, but you remember cleo, right, miss?
Speaker 1:cleo, whatever, call me now for your free reading, and we used to sit around, but she was deep and we would sit around and have coffee full pause if you all sorry, patty, if you all watching have not seen the cleo documentary.
Speaker 2:If you were ever a 90s kid, you know and you saw that infomercial and you called that number to talk to miss cleo, understand that that her and Patty were friends and she was actually a local to South Florida and like words, and Patty is um one of the main speakers, commentators in her documentary and if you haven't seen it I believe it's onflix no, I um, it's hbo max. Hbo max. Please, please, take the time to go watch that, because call me miss cleo that's what it's an interesting.
Speaker 1:I was just on cleo's life yeah, I was disappointed in it.
Speaker 1:You know I I really, you know I didn't. I didn't really like it, but you never know what the documentary people are going to do. But she used to come into the cafe and we would sit around and we'd have a smoke at that time I smoked my clove cigarettes, that was the thing and we would have our coffee and espresso and sometimes she would just drop these things and I was kind of much more naive then and she said that war, that war over there in Iraq, people think it's about oil, people think it's about this, but it's not. I said well, what is it about? Then she said ancient technology. I was like, what ancient technology? She said there are things there buried that they want to get their hands on. And it was years later that I heard about things like stargates, portals and things like that.
Speaker 2:I was son of a gun she was right, but at the time antarctica was like holy shit antarctica's huge.
Speaker 1:Oh, my goodness. What we're going to be learning about antarctica, did you was this did this have anything to do with the ice wall?
Speaker 2:um, this had to do with people they sent there, oh and oh, that somebody, who actually this team of scientists? When they came back for the rescue mission to get them, the rescuers were like something's fucking wrong. Yeah, like everybody's frozen. One guy had a stroke, heart attack. None of them could speak, they gone on the helis and they were not unable to answer questions. They were fucking it, stuck in shock. What they had seen did that to them really, really funny, because that shit in miami mall and everybody's like, oh the fucking, that's right to those who don't?
Speaker 2:know there was entity uh present in a miami mall and I've never seen any footage of it. But besides the point, they weren't gonna.
Speaker 1:They weren't gonna, you're not gonna call 300 fucking cops.
Speaker 2:I've never, ever and I've seen some shit. I've been in. I've been in, seen and followed by, you know police chases.
Speaker 1:I've never seen some shit that wasn't about some kids lighting off fire, firecrackers oh, I don't fucking think so.
Speaker 2:The police presence was a laugh. It was a laugh that you guys are going to call this something as simplistic as that, but, interestingly enough, people have made those comments about the coordinate swap, because if you swap the coordinates of Miami, it brings you to Antarctica, absolutely. However, these men, when they finally talk, when they got away from Antarctica and they finally spoke one particular man said that these entities could come in and out of our reality. That's right, and they could do exactly what was said that they did in that mall. It was the same kind of creature, almost Skinwalker-esque, yep.
Speaker 2:They would be classified as interdimensional correct because they can, because they can move in and out. Of dimension?
Speaker 1:they're not. Yeah, yeah, now a lot of stuff is starting to come out. You know, with the, with the ufo disclosure. Like you, you do get military people now using the term there's interdimensional, there's inter, there's extraterrestrial, there's like we came up with a fucking space force.
Speaker 2:So don't telldimensional, there's inter, there's extraterrestrial, there's like we came up with a fucking space force. So don't tell me that there's not shit out there. Oh yeah, there is.
Speaker 1:But the whole thing about Antarctica, though, taylor, I find it fascinating, and I do think that we are we are going to be hearing a lot more like when, when we finally have access to this information. I this is what I've been hearing that there are bodies of land on earth far more than the ones that we live on, that earth is bigger, and that humans are kind of kept in this wall. In this, yes, now, the ice wall goes all the way around antarctica. But if you go, if you go beyond the ice wall In this yes, Now, the ice wall goes all the way around Antarctica.
Speaker 2:Around the world.
Speaker 1:But if you go beyond the ice wall, there are lands and continents that we don't have access to, cities you know, like places where people live, and I've also heard that there are some animals there that we would consider extinct. It's giving Truman.
Speaker 2:Show. Yes, honestly, people, it's giving Truman Show and I'm going to take my fucking boat to the end. I'm saying and I say this all the time, I say this all the time there are maps that prove this. Yes, this ice wall, there are ice walls drawn on maps, 1600s. Um, there are maps of inner earth. To me, yeah, inner earth is looking a lot like people that got beyond the ice wall right, and to me and I've said this a million times to you, patty the idealism of what we consider to be mythological creature yeah didn't come from somebody's imagination you know exactly, tolkien was tapping into a real language.
Speaker 2:He didn't fucking invent elfish or elfin. Okay, these animals, these beings, these creatures came from something more than imagination. Where are they? Where, where?
Speaker 1:are the remnants of unicorns and dragons.
Speaker 2:Yeah, where are the fossils?
Speaker 1:of these creatures? Yeah, and what about fairies and elves and little people?
Speaker 2:fairies and little people and elves. I feel like they can go back and forth.
Speaker 1:See, I think that they're interdimensional I think those are those I do yeah yeah, I do believe that they can be and Sasquatch.
Speaker 2:Bigfoot. I believe they are also interdimensional. That's why they speak light language. That's why they say that Bigfoot can speak in light language. That story that I told you about this place, the place that that story happened was Clingman's Dome. That story happened was clingman's dome. And this place, uh, the cherokees, uh, pure reverence for this land. Right, it's in the cherokee national forest.
Speaker 2:There is a portion of this forest where everything sinks down into this bowl potty and you get this fog cover and when you walk down into this valley and you look up it's called the Magic Lake. The condensation from the fog kind of encapsulates you and when you look up it looks like a body of water Interesting. So they call it Magic Lake because it's a mirage and it makes it look like. So, anyways, this place is very sacred, especially to the natives. People go there and they do sound baths. And so there's this woman I know, wonderful, intelligent, highly intelligent in stone medicine. She goes there and she sets up crystal grids and they do sound baths in this place right called the magic lake.
Speaker 2:And so there was a girl who, um, as they were uh, uh leaving the sound bath I guess they had already finished whatever she hit her head on a tree and straight passed out like, knocked herself out on a tree branch as they were walking. When she came to, everyone was around her and she was like Bigfoot. Just, this is the craziest story. Don't judge me people. No, I love it.
Speaker 2:Bigfoot just downloaded into me and they were like I'm sorry what? No, they were going there to place sound bath for whomever, interdimensional or not.
Speaker 1:They kept their door wide open.
Speaker 2:This is why I don't go to drum circle and me neither okay this girl, after she hits her head, claims that bigfoot came up to her, healed her wound and she had a tattoo of metatron. Sacred geometry is light language written down Right. He used her tattoo, put his hand on it and downloaded light language into her.
Speaker 2:So when she woke up to tell everybody she was speaking light language she was speaking white language and the girl, sarah, who was in charge of this excursion, was like holy shit, she's speaking white language. Everybody else thought she hit her head too damn hard. And then, you know, the girl told her like it used my my tattoo to download into me. Told her like it used my my tattoo to download into me. Um, and I found that to be absolutely fascinating, because we really don't realize the portals that we open up, the tattoos first of all I agree.
Speaker 1:Um yeah, where exactly is this place, this bowl, this where the sacred lake is?
Speaker 2:um clingman's dome in north carolina or it's in tennessee. Actually it's called clayman's clingman's like I cling to it and clingman was actually a really shitty person, and I do believe that natives are working on a name change where they've discussed name changes.
Speaker 2:Yeah, because the natives don't call it that um I can't remember the cherokee name for this place, but there is an exponential amount of ufo activity recorded, I bet, in this place. And if you look up slingman's dome, it's this giant. You park in the parking lot, you're on the cusp of this giant overlook, right that sees seven states. You're up so high. But the pathway is this giant long twirling line that brings you to this overlook. But the overlook is shaped just like a UFO, a giant UFO on the side of a mountain. And so I just thought like interesting architecture, really interesting architecture for the middle of nowhere.
Speaker 1:And considering that's why, as crazy as the world is right now, I'm, I'm hopeful for the future, because I think, like so much is going to it will. It's going to be bumpy, it'll be a little rough for a while, but so much is going to be coming out, so much disclosure, so much. You know, if you can imagine living in a world where we can finally be free of the forces that have wanted to enslave us, and part of that freedom is knowing our real history, because I think one of the forces that have wanted to enslave us, and part of that freedom is knowing our real history, because I think one of the big things that's kept humanity back is that we don't know our history. We don't know who we are, we don't we don't know what's going on.
Speaker 2:And then we believe books that are half true.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean how? And there's always a sense that something is a bit off. So we've kind of been a species where we're kind of scratching our head most of the time.
Speaker 2:We've got amnesia, yeah, and we were given amnesia?
Speaker 1:Yeah, exactly, and so I think that the amnesia days are probably coming to an end too.
Speaker 2:Well, it's out there, hide it. We can't you know. First of all, you know Freemasons exist for a reason, right, and you think about the, the history of of Masons and that's bricklaying, laying the foundation. Um, those secrets are coming out. I don't know if you know this or if you've seen, but there are so many family members of past Freemasons who are opening up their loved one's Bible, their Freemason Bible, and this information that I've never seen publicly before. There is going to be a lot coming out.
Speaker 1:You know the age of Aquarius, the age of knowledge, and I think that they see like knowledge, secret knowledge being held by secret societies. I think those days are over. I don't think that things need to be locked up in vaults under the Smithsonian, locked up in vaults under the Vatican. I mean, it's not like they don't know where the Ark of the Covenant is like we already know all of that.
Speaker 2:we already know what you guys have made a million movies, you know, insinuating that. You know that there is an entire wing of the pentagram dedicated to Hollywood and film the pentagon. Oh, yeah, Because it's all part of and, like you and I say the 20 years out, I think anything that they're showing you in a movie today. My kids, my teenagers, are excited to see Venom, which is about an amoeba who takes over his body and wants to eat people, et cetera. The things that are being shown to you now. Technology wise, these are things that our governments were doing 20 years ago, over a decade ago Easily easily for doing 20 years ago, over a decade ago, easily, easily.
Speaker 2:We are so in the dark and played so badly. I think it was Cat Williams that was like it's really cool that it happens to be entertaining, but that's not the purpose. That's not the purpose. Indoctrination is the purpose, it's not entertainment purposes. That's not the purpose. Indoctrination is the purpose, it's not entertainment purposes. Right, yeah, but we happily go to the movie theater, we happily sit in front of our screen, we happily scroll. Yeah, we are subdued. They're keeping us subdued, entertained.
Speaker 2:But I think those days, I don't think those days are going to last. I'm guilty, we're all guilty of it. I honestly I think that's gonna change well, because this shit's gonna go. We're not gonna have the, we're gonna lose this shit. The sun's not playing with us. We're gonna lose. I tell people this all the time, especially when they get super frustrated like, oh, the world is dying and no, no, mother earth is very much alive and if she wants to cleanse herself, she will. If we have to learn how to live from scratch again she's gonna do a parasite cleanse she's gonna do a parasite cleanse.
Speaker 2:And I hate to. I hate to quote joe rogan, you know, but he he's like when you're in the sky and you're looking down, he's like you fly into LA. I think he was on D&D or something, but he said he was flying somewhere to California. In more ways than one. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And he looked down and thought we look like cancer on the earth. Looked down and thought we look like cancer on the earth, like the way that we've built up and you know, the decimation of our natural state. I don't think that you know the purpose of humanity is parasitic.
Speaker 1:Yeah, um, not our original purpose. We have a very not our relationship to earth individually.
Speaker 2:We can go tap into that today, right now, totally, totally right the new generation. Touch grass, like go fucking touch some grass, go ground yourself. You want to talk about electricity? Tesla would tell you to take your fucking shoes off. Yeah. Yeah, we got to tap back in. Yeah, because we're here for a purpose.
Speaker 1:We're not here to make a mess and cause debauchery and leave I I think that, um, you know oftentimes what happens you know, yeah, and you've heard about how people's lives change when they have a near-death experience or dark night of the soul and I honestly think that that happens and I think it might be happening now on a collective a collective night of the soul.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and so when, when you go through that as a as a breakthroughs right, the breakthroughs in terms of, like, tapping into your intuition, tapping into things that you didn't, that you weren't able to tap into before. I think that that is a result of you know some of these darker things that we are going through. You know like we're. We're kind of in this existential. It's like, oh my goodness, what nuclear war, what missiles, like ships off of our code, what you know, like it doesn't it not Floridians joking about shooting up Russian? War submarine.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's just, you know, that's just. You know stupid people who want to. But I think what the leaders of the world are doing, it doesn't. It doesn't make any sense, like, why would you want to encourage war on this? On this scale, it doesn't make any sense. And it doesn't make any sense, like, why would you want to encourage war on this? On this scale, it doesn't make any sense. And it doesn't make any sense to a whole lot of people, even people who might have been supporters of war before. It's kind of like well, wait, wait, I have, I have children and grandchildren. No, no, this, this is not cool, and and so I think like we really are at some kind of some kind of tipping point.
Speaker 1:I also just just want to add that the, the dollar is now dead because of what happened in Saudi Arabia. There was an agreement between the United States and Saudi Arabia to only use the American, only use the US dollar for oil purchases, and the thing is that agreement expired on the 9th of June and Saudi Arabia did not renew it. So what that means is the petrodollar. There's no such thing as the petrodollar anymore. It doesn't exist, and so what the effect of that? I think we're going to be feeling over the summer what is happening to our dollar. And there are the BRICS nations around the world who are like we don't really want to trade in the US dollar anymore. I think that this is going to be huge for the United States. I think that it's going to change us in terms of being a consumerist country, because we consume all of this stuff from all over the world and I'm like are they going to tell the truth about Fort Knox, or are we just gonna?
Speaker 1:I do think that there's there's a positive money system coming for the United States, but in the meantime, I think it's going to be pretty rough. It may be a very, very interesting summer in terms of like trade, like what countries are going to ship stuff to the United States if they don't accept our dollar? So, and and actually this is just, I think one thing that we should probably follow pretty closely is the pharmaceutical stuff, taylor, because it does affect you and your family with Phoenix. But it's like what if we are not able to get the pharmaceuticals that people have been getting, that are obviously life preserving? So we're just going to have to see what develops with that, because so I think I don't know what percentage it's like 85 90% of our pharmaceuticals come from, come from out of, out of the country. So very interesting. We're just gonna have to see what, what shapes up over the summer. But that's huge.
Speaker 1:And so you know, when you say near near death experience, I think that the United States is about to full throttle go into a near death experience and when we come out the other end, our relationship to government will be different, our relationship to medicine will be different, our relationship to educate, I mean, it's all going to be different in that you know where. We may not have a federal government after. You know, when all is said and done, we may decide to be totally local and honestly, I think that's. I think that's kind of cool, so, but will it be bumpy? Yeah, it'll be, it'll be bumpy.
Speaker 2:Yeah, as long as it doesn't become like Game of Thrones, shit, you know yeah no exactly, or like Mad Max or you know whatever. It's kind of like you know there's always the chance it is, it is so, but we'll see.
Speaker 1:But before I know we've. You know time goes by so quickly when we're just kind of yakking away, right. I know, and I love this, love this part when we, just before we end, you pull a card and the intention behind the card is what is going to be most helpful for us as we move into the next week. I thought that zebra medicine like, even though it seemed really unusual that week that you pulled it, I thought it was perfect. So every time you pull a card, it does seem like it's perfect for our times moving forward. So, given what you know we'll be facing in the coming week or so, what card is going to be the best medicine for it? What, by the way, what cards do you have today?
Speaker 2:Today we're pulling from animal spirit guidebook again. Awesome, wild unknown. I love that. Okay, love Kim Kranz. She's a wonderful, wonderful author and illustrator. So I'm just going to pull for us with intention. Ooh, the B Interesting because I think about, like the hive, the collective, everybody's got a job.
Speaker 1:Yep.
Speaker 2:Everybody has a purpose. That's right. We're working together.
Speaker 1:Not that we're not individuals, because we all are very unique and individual, but we're really part of the human collective Earth element.
Speaker 2:So interesting that we've talked so much about Earth this morning and that B2 decided to answer their call. So let us read, shall we? First of all, I just lied because it's not an Earth part. Is it an air? It is. That would make most sense, wouldn't it? My triangle was flipped upside down. What a wonderful analogy to summarize our conversation today, patti oh let's hear it.
Speaker 2:Earnest, hardworking, democratic. A bee personality is a delight to be around, especially when there's a team project on the horizon. Bees love to work steadily and thoughtfully until the task is complete. They're sensitive creatures, aware of many subtleties all at once. Since they're artists at heart, they usually add creative details to their overall vision. For the most part, they have bustling joyous personalities until they're too tired from all the work. And then they gripe. And then they sting, then they sting. So a couple things come to my mind collectively Bustling joyous. That is our natural state. Right, If we were allowed to turn off all the boxes, not go to work, we would find ourselves getting busy in things that were closer to our heart, we would still be productive.
Speaker 1:We would still be. Yeah, might be still working hard, but working hard on projects and on things that are best for the collective, not best for, say, a corporation or you know, and something with sustenance.
Speaker 2:Yes, not emptiness, like we spend all of our time. And then they're too tired from all the work, feels a lot like humanity right now.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Collectively. We're all fucking tired, we're all fucking sick of working To paper house that we're only in when we sleep, because we're always working. Um, and then they gripe, right, yeah, griping is good sometimes. Now I try not to be too negative, but I do love a good gripe getting it off our chest, having a good rant, and then thing.
Speaker 1:I think that the sting and the bee is really significant for the time we're in, because humanity is is ready to act now when you think about the size of a bee and then you think about, like the size of a human or a really large animal, and how one sting from one tiny little bee could, could bring, could bring a human to their knee, you know, like when you think about it it's still a human in some instances, yeah. So it's kind of like the power in that it's like we don't, we're not going to, we're not going to use it unless we need to. But when we use it we can be the David and you can be the Goliath and you're coming down. I think, wow, how powerful that is the sting of a bee, what it can do to things much, much, much larger than itself. But that's awesome Bee medicine to bring us into the coming week.
Speaker 1:I think about, like the vibration of bees and what they're able to produce, which is like the elixir of life honey. What an amazing species you know to.
Speaker 2:There are holistic practitioners using bee bee beds. Have you seen this?
Speaker 1:I just lost her signal. I'm going to give her a minute or two. We're pretty close to uh, the end of our live stream here, so I'm going to see if she pops back on. But anyway, we're talking about bee medicine for the coming week. You know the mighty bee and how it bustles joyously and emits a kind of vibration that is that helps produce the most powerful healing food on the planet, which is honey. So that is the bee, the small but mighty bee, the industrious bee, the joyously bustling bee. That's where we're going to leave it for this week, with that inspiration moving into the week ahead. How can we align with the vibration and the joyously bustling be as we move forward and work on things that are near and dear to our hearts and aligned with the good of humanity, because really that's what it's about.
Speaker 1:So, on behalf of Taylor, who has probably had to go off to do potty duty with Porter, her two-year-old, and myself, we hope that you have a great rest of your week. We're sending you all love. We do this every Saturday at nine o'clock. Next week, enoki will be joining us and we'll be hearing all about her new home project. Anyway, have a great week, everyone. We're sending you love. Ciao, thank you.