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The Sassy Contrarian, Ep. 2: Choosing the Hills We're Willing to Die On

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 Join Patti from Patti Talks Too Much on this second episode of her new The Sassy Contrarian Podcast to hear her jaw-dropping story of political transformation . Starting with a humorous online jab where she was dubbed a "trumpette" for posting a satirical meme of Joe Biden, Patti recounts her eye-opening journey through the polarized landscape of American politics, urging listeners to embrace change and follow their own paths despite societal pressures. In other words, choose the hills we are willing to die on.

Dive deep into one of the most harrowing issues of our time: child trafficking. Patti exposes the unsettling reality of the United States as the leading consumer of child pornography and sex trafficking, spotlighting the complicity of high-profile figures and institutions. Despite his many controversies, she commends Donald Trump for his unyielding stance against these atrocities, arguing that his commitment to protecting children transcends political affiliations.

From her activist days in New York City to collecting signatures in conservative and liberal strongholds of New England, Patti's experiences offer a rich tapestry of political life and the importance of standing firm in one's values. She challenges listeners to question societal norms, drawing parallels to the COVID-19 pandemic and the steadfast faith of Christians. Stay tuned for an upcoming episode where she will address the trans movement, promising yet another provocative discussion.

Speaker 1:

All right, hello and welcome to episode two of the Sassy Contrarian. That's me. I'm Patti with Patti Talks Too Much, and you can listen to this podcast on the Talks Too Much channel, on any of your podcast locations and also on Rumble. I also upload this to Rumble, one of my favorite sites. So today is June 20th and I wanted to jump on and do my second episode because I've been taking notes and there are a lot of things to talk about.

Speaker 1:

But recently the idea for my second episode came from kind of a humorous interaction I had just a couple of days ago with, for the very first time, I was called a trumpet on a line. And you know and I have to say that perhaps I brought it on myself because I I like to be sassy and irreverent as much as I can be on Facebook. Now why I even still bother with Facebook, I don't know. Chalk it up, it's some mental issue I must have. But most of the people that I know are on Facebook. So we're all. I don't know what's wrong with us, but at any rate, I don't really like to post much of anything on Facebook, except for things that are quickly and sassy and really push the envelope or, in my mind, push the envelope. Maybe they don't, but anyway, there was something I had seen on one of the you know, one of the channels that I follow on Telegram. It was a kind of a funny image of a postage stamp with Joe Biden's face kind of looking like off into space, totally spaced out. And of course, this, the stamp, was for zero cents and I just I thought it was funny. If it was slightly mean spirited, it was still kind of funny and and the reason, and generally I do try to stay away from mean spirited things, but I have to tell you, like you know, I have no mercy.

Speaker 1:

I know, joe, you know we can say, oh, you know, feel bad for Joe, poor Joe, no, I don't, I don't really, I don't really care about Joe's feelings. And same for Fauci. Oh, fauci, no, I don't, I don't care, I don't care. You know, at this point, they deserve what they get. They have functioned for decades and decades for their own purpose. That has been to the detriment of the collective. And so, yeah, so fuck you, joe, but at any rate, so there was this and I posted it. And so, yeah, so fuck you, joe, but at any rate, so there was, and I posted it. And you know there are still a lot of people who believe that you know because you know I have a particular history believe that I'm going to be leaning way to the left and I don't. Those days are over, so that's why I often say I don't.

Speaker 1:

I, when I started my Patty talks too much podcast, I didn't reach out to any of the people I knew five years ago, because that that woman is has changed and they they're not going to be meeting the same woman anymore. So, but at any rate. So I posted this postage stamp thing on my Facebook page and said stamp collectors, you're one and only opportunity to get this collector's item, you know, a stamp that is not worth the paper that it is printed on and has no discernible function, at any rate one of the folks who I guess follow my page, but from way back, all right, so this is one of the way back. People said I didn't know you were a trumpet, and I just simply replied I don't know what that is. Oh, he said and best wishes to you. And I just said I don't know what that is. Thanks for the best wishes and I moved on.

Speaker 1:

I'm not going to engage in any of that, but I thought it is really interesting that you know you can be critical. You know people will make a whole lot of assumptions, and we're we live in such a polarized culture right now. The assumption is is that you are a Trump worshiper. You know they really really go into extremes about that. But I will say that if there is an election in November you know people talking about how there might not be you know a lot of things might happen between now and then. It's a long ways between here and there and there are a lot of things that might happen and there's a lot of speculation on the back channels in terms of will there even be an election in November. But if there is an election and it's actually safe to get to the polls, I will. I will cast my vote for Donald J Trump.

Speaker 1:

Now. It's been a long journey from where I was 20 years ago to where I am now, and I think that there's some really interesting stories embedded in it and I wanted to share them. I wanted to share them with you, but it was something that I began to think about. As you know, the this, this gentleman felt that he needed to point out that he had no idea that I was a trumpet. Look, I'm 65 years old and my thinking and those of you who have moved along in the decades you know that you're thinking in your 20s was different than what you're thinking might have been in your 30s and in your 40s and in your 50s.

Speaker 1:

All right, there is something to be said, for hindsight is 2020. And the longer you live, the more hindsight you have and the more 2020 you have. That's just kind of how I see it is. You're you're going to see an awful lot and you're going to see things a little bit more clearly and, in my case, with a lot more balance, because one of the things that I struggled with my, my whole life was finding the balance, and I tended to go from one extreme to the other. All right, and I'm going to, I'm going to um, and hopefully, at this point in my life, you know, I mean I don't really think that uh being, you know, uh being somebody who would cast their vote for Donald Trump is extreme. I don't particularly see it that way. I mean, you know what are our options. I do like RFK Jr. There are some reasons why I probably wouldn't vote for him, though I am a big proponent of independent politics in the United States and, as a matter of fact, politics in the United States and, as a matter of fact, way back in my political activism days, I worked diligently for independent politics and independent candidates, which I'll get to in just a second. So, but here's the thing Now at this point in my life.

Speaker 1:

You know that expression choose the hill you'll die on. This is an expression that we hear a lot about in teaching. You know, because there are so many things that you're dealing with in the classroom. You know like, oh, we've got to do this, we have to address this, or there's this discipline thing, and then there's this objective and there's all of these oh and the standards and the blah, blah, blah, and all of this shit kind of comes at you in the classroom, comes at you in the classroom and all of these different behaviors that we're dealing with, especially now post COVID. You know all that and and and honestly, often the expression in teacher's lounges is you got to choose the hill you'll die on, because there are so many that you just have to choose the ones that are most. You have to prioritize. You really have to choose the ones that you'll go all in on.

Speaker 1:

And so I have always had a very conflicted relationship to politics and I feel, at this point, I mean there was a period of my time when I didn't vote. I was like fuck it all, I'm not even participating, the system is corrupt and I my vote, you know, says I consent to the system and I don't, and that was my position for, uh, for many years. Um, now I think that my position is and I don't. I don't think that there was no merit in that position. You know I don't regret having that position. However, at this point in my life, and in kind of looking back on things you know with more of a clear view, would say that the thing that's most important to me in all aspects of my life is that is kind of encapsulated in that statement choose the hills, you'll die, all right, and so that's true in the classroom, that's true. So I don't really want to even invest any of my energy into things that don't have much value to me. I really look very carefully at where I put my energy and the hills that I'm willing to die on, and I'm going to tell you that right now in my life, knowing what I know and having seen what I've seen, the hill that I'm willing to die on is the protection of children.

Speaker 1:

Protection of children, the end of trafficking of children and human trafficking, the abuse of children in the sex trade. The reality of this is so dark that most people don't even want to look at it, but it's real. It is an industry that makes more money than the drug industry and you have the absolute scum it supporting it, profiting off of it, protecting it, and some of those people operate in very, very high places in our culture. So many of them are celebrities, politicians, in the media and whatever. And so when you have something so heinous going on in our culture, where the United States is the number one consumer of child pornography and child sex trafficking, and we all just turn around and want to ignore it, I'm sorry, we've got blood on our hands, and so I don't want to be that guy. So, and I've dedicated. I haven't had children of my own, but I've dedicated my life to children. You know, as a teacher, as someone who always felt very, very protective of children, even though I had none of my own biological children, children have always been very, very important to me.

Speaker 1:

So, going into this political season, what I have observed is there is only one candidate who has even broached the issue of this demonic industry of child trafficking, human trafficking, child sex trafficking, and that's Donald Trump. And I honestly think at this point and I've been thinking about this a lot, you know I think that there is so much pressure on people not to like, pressure on the celebrities, pressure on the politicians for public figures to speak out. Why is that? What that tells me is that it is so insidious and it is so promoted by some of the most powerful people in the world that it is dangerous to speak out about this crime. And so, when Donald Trump was willing to do it, I honestly think that part of the reason why they have gone after him with such vehemence, such you know, you have some scumbag like Robert De Niro being rolled out to call Donald Trump all kinds of names in front of the courthouse. Are you kidding? You pervert, you pedophile, you scum of the earth. Get the fuck out of here. Who wants to listen to you? You scumbag? Who wants to listen to you? You scumbag, right? So that's who you roll out to come after him. So that is an indication of the kind of person who will come after Donald Trump. And I'm not saying everybody who attacks Donald Trump is a pedophile, but really De Niro.

Speaker 1:

So this is the hill I'm willing to die on, and what that means is I don't give a shit how much of an asshole trump is. I don't, I don't care. Oh, you know. He said he's gonna grab a woman's pussy. I don't care, I don't care, you know. Oh, you know he's. He's. You know bombastic, he's blah, blah. I don't care. He has a big eagle. I don't care, I don't care. Know he's. You know bombastic, he's blah, blah, blah, blah. I don't care. He has a big ego. I don't care, I don't care. I know he's not very nice to Rosie O'Donnell. I don't care. Call Rosie O'Donnell a fat pig, I don't care, I don't give a shit, because this is a hill I'm willing to die on If he is going to make good on his word to go after these evil people and the cartels. By the way, the drug cartels realize it's like hey, I can make just as much, if not more money, selling kids as cocaine. So hey, you know. So the cartels are in. So If he is actually doing that, if he's going to make good on his word to do so. I'm all in. That's the hill I'll die on. So I will cast my vote for the asshole who's willing to do that, because you know none of these other polished people you know who speak correctly. Whatever, they're not speaking about this, so fuck you. You know I don't need someone to be polished, I don't need someone to always say the right things. What I'm looking at is what are your actions and what are you doing about the things that matter most? And to me we need to protect the children, and if you're not doing that, fuck you. So that's my take on that.

Speaker 1:

And I've traveled a long way from being a on that. And I've traveled a long way from being a Marxist-Leninist revolutionary in my 20s. Yep, that's true, I was a Marxist-Leninist revolutionary, full-time political activist in my 20s. How the hell did that happen? Well, you might ask, how the hell did it happen that I got from there to where I am today? Well, you know, this gray hair kind of speaks somewhat for itself. You know, I have gained some wisdom over the years and again my life has been traveling those extremities, finding some balance. You might say. Well, patty, there's no real balance. You know You're going to another extreme by supporting Trump in a way that might appear that way, but again, I'm choosing the hill I'll die on and, quite frankly, it's all extreme out there now.

Speaker 1:

But in my 20s I was a Marxist-Leninist revolutionary, and so I lived in New York City. I organized on the street, I sold leftist newspapers on the one train and went out and I petitioned to get leftist candidates on the ballot. I did all of those things, you know, and I was very, very dedicated. How did I get there? Well, again, you live long enough and you give yourself an opportunity to be reflective and introspective and honest with yourself about these different points in your life and these different choices that you made along the way. You really learn a lot. And so here's here's my take on how it is that I became a Marxist, leninist revolutionary in my 20s.

Speaker 1:

First of all, I'll say and I did mention this in the last podcast so I was someone who lived an alternative lifestyle. Now, that's a, really that's what we used to call it right, we were kind of discreet about our you know, about living, you know, kind of an alternative sexuality. We didn't get into all of those labels. I lived an alternative lifestyle and for that had suffered some rejection from my family and also was felt rejected by by religion and by my family. And so here I was in my early 20s, kind of broken in some ways and unmoored and and untethered. It's like where do I go, what do I turn to? And I was also very angry. I was a very angry young person. Why, why is the world like this? Why do people get treated like this? Why is it? You know, I had an enormous amount of pain, I was carrying around and I was angry. Then there appears the political leftists and they started talking and some of their words kind of made sense and what I found was that they offered answers to the things that pained me most and they offered an outlet for my anger. And so I was all in and became a full-time organizer as a Marxist-Leninist in New York City. But that was kind of the history of it.

Speaker 1:

Now, part of the story I wanted to share with you today was how my first encounter with liberals Now I was considered a way progressive leftist. Okay, so you would think, well, you know, liberal, progressive, it's just a matter of degree, not so? I want to share with you this story about when I went to New Hampshire to put a candidate on on the ballot as an independent candidate. Now, like I said, a lot of my work as a Marxist-Leninist political activist was, you know, these campaigns and these petitions and this stuff, protests and all of this stuff. You know we would be in protests and we would see the FBI guys with their little cameras you know cameras and stuff like that. I, I'm sure I had an FBI file, probably still do whatever but we were fielding a candidate for president and we wanted to get her on the ballot in all 50 states. Now this was a black woman who was a Marxist socialist, all right, and they asked me to go to New Hampshire. Now, new Hampshire is considered very conservative, right? So a lot of my comrades that's what we called each other, comrades, you know said well, the strategy for New Hampshire is you go in, you get the signatures and you get the hell out. The thing with independent candidates is you do need an unfair number of signatures to get a candidate on the ballot in most states if they are independent, and that's just how the system is set up. So we knew that we had an enormous amount of work to do, but anyway, I would.

Speaker 1:

I went up to New Hampshire and started collecting signatures out in front of Kmart's. Kmart's were open, you know, they were still. This was in the eighties, so they were still, they still existed. So there were Kmart's in these different places around around New Hampshire. I could go in these different areas and collect signatures. And I let me tell you something I was nervous, I was actually, I was scared in these different areas and collect signatures. And I let me tell you something I was nervous, I was actually, I was scared. You know, there was just little old me with my clipboard out in front of a Kmart in a completely strange area. Right, no backup, nothing, just me with my clipboard. And this is the response.

Speaker 1:

Now, new Hampshire interesting. What is their motto? Live free or die. So you talk about a state that kind of puts that hill, that they're willing to die on right out in front. Live free or die. Now, here's the interesting thing live free or die. Now, here's the interesting thing, these guys really mean it.

Speaker 1:

So I went to New Hampshire. I stood in front of Kmart's all over New Hampshire, southern New Hampshire, northern New Hampshire, up in the mountains, east, west Portsmouth, you know, just, you know, in some beautiful, beautiful areas. And there I was, out in front of Kmart's collecting signatures and here was the response that I got, overwhelmingly, was there would be these guys and they you know a lot of them would be. You know, they'd have a little thing of tobacco in their cheek and they'd have their flannel shirt on and their suspenders and their jeans and and I would just, you know, I was just this little thing, right, and I've got my clipboard and I've got my little brochure there with this woman's picture on it so they could see, you know, she was like this, this black woman, right. And I would tell them it's like hi, you know my name is, you know I'm, I'm out collecting signatures to get an independent candidate on the ballot for president, for the presidential race. You know we need such and such number of signatures to to get her on the ballot.

Speaker 1:

And these guys would look at me and then they'd look at my clipboard, they'd look at the picture and they would say, overwhelmingly, this was the response well, sweetie, I'll be honest, I'm not going to vote for her, but she sure as hell has a right to be on that ballot. And they signed, and I got signatures in record time in New Hampshire and it blew my comrades away Because they thought I was going into a war zone. Way, because they thought I was going into a war zone, they thought no, you know, very few people would want to sign my petition because this woman represented just about every position they were against. You know, she was a progressive. They knew it. I was this little socialist out in front of Kmart collecting signatures. They knew, they knew the drill. They knew that this woman would not represent any of their political views. It didn't matter.

Speaker 1:

What mattered to them was the democratic process, which is that you have a right to be on the ballot, no matter what I think of you. Live free or die. So you are free to speak, you are free to run, you are free to gather, you are free. All of the Bill of Rights, they live it and they mean it Live free or die. That was my first encounter in conservative country. I was like. You know, these conservatives are all right. I kind of I kind of like them. You know they were decent, they were not mean to me. They didn't call me names. They didn't. You know, even though they might've thought to themselves well, she's kind of naive, you know, they might've thought of all kinds of things. They never said it to me. They supported the spirit of what I was. I was standing out there because I believed in what I was doing, I believed in my candidate and I was following a process, the democratic process of collecting signatures to get this woman on the ballot, and they supported it. That I really learned a lot from. That was an eye opener for me and and I never forgot it Obviously I never forgot it because it was a long time ago, but I still remember a lot of these, you know gentlemen and women who would come up to me and sign my petition, quite, you know, quite willingly Now, in contrast.

Speaker 1:

So then, when the New Hampshire work was done, there was the work to be done in Massachusetts, right? So we had to get all these signatures for this independent, progressive candidate on the ballot in Massachusetts. And you would think, when I was asked, okay, we need you to go to Boston because we've got to collect all of these signatures, and I was like, oh, cool, cool, I like Boston, cambridge, somerville, these areas, I like Boston. I went to Boston and obviously the demographics in Boston very, very different, so it's, it's overwhelmingly liberal, all right, and I went to Boston and I, here I am same clipboard, same picture, and this woman can't.

Speaker 1:

This candidate represented all issues that these people support right, abortion rights, affirmative, you know all of the, all the lefty, all the lefty talking points were her talking points. Obviously she was progressive and person after person after person would say well, I don't, I'm not sure I want to sign that petition to put her on the ballot because I don't know all of her positions and I would have to remind them. Well, this isn't a commitment for your vote, it just gives her the right to run. Yeah, I know, but I don't know if I want to give her the right to run. I need to see her positions and I need to see if I agree with her positions. Democratic process If there was any chance at all that this candidate who was running might have a different position than theirs, I got it.

Speaker 1:

You know, I was young and naive. I was gobsmacked. I couldn't believe it. I was like give me New Hampshire, you know, give me those conservatives up in New Hampshire, I'd rather hang out with them than these. You know, arrogant fucks. You know they're just entitled like oh, I don't know if I want her to be on the ballot? I'm not. I don't want to sign for that Because I don't know.

Speaker 1:

Do you have any literature? Do you have any literature? Can I take your brochure? You know, and of course we were like you know, we were like a poor campaign. You know, we didn't have like tons and tons of brochures to hand out. But I tell you what, in those liberal communities, man, we handed out all of our literature in the liberal communities and you know what? It didn't. It wasn't even worth it because it didn't mean that they would sign our petition anyway. You know, they might read the literature and go meh, you know, no.

Speaker 1:

So that was my first experience in my 20s dealing with conservatives and dealing with liberals and, to be honest with you, even though I was still at this time, at this point in time, a Marxist-Leninist revolutionary you know activist, I kind of liked the conservatives better than the liberals. The liberals were pain in the asses, they were arrogant fucks. And so you know, I wanted to tell that story because I have come a long way since then and I have seen that it's important for us to determine what hills we are willing to die on and so, and to really, really consider that I also. I think that it's important at this point to think about you know, how committed are the people that we support? How much of themselves are they willing to give or willing to sacrifice for you know, for whatever causes they say, or are they just self-serving? And I think, if we really take a hard look, most politicians are really just self-serving that when the shit hits the fan, you know they don't they'll drop us like a hot potato, and that we've seen over and over again. So I just wanted to share that story with you, because I have come a long way. I have chosen the hills that I am willing to die on and I honestly think that at this point in our I don't know, in our evolution, I think that it's really time for us in the West to grow the hell up and figure out the hills that we're willing to die on and it really the causes that we're willing to die for.

Speaker 1:

What in your life are you willing to die for? Are you willing to die for anything? Most people might say I'm willing to die for my children. Good, how far will you go? You know, to protect, you know to protect your children? Um, there are, unfortunately, people and I'm going to get into this in another episode because I have so much to say about the trans movement, but that deserves its own episode. And, yep, I'm going to let that shit rip Because you would think, right, I'm a woman who's lived an alternative lifestyle, so would be trans forward. No, not one single bit. And you know what I'm gonna tell you. I'm gonna leave on this, you know, just to give you a hint, because you know I am going to get into it in the next episode, but not this one.

Speaker 1:

Um, it's really heartbreaking to see. You know, I've been around for a long time and there are some people. You know I talked about facebook, right, so you go on. You know I've been around for a long time and there are some people. You know I talked about Facebook, right, so you go on, you know, and people will have their little flags, right, the little causes. You know, for a while there was the Ukrainian flag or the, you know, the Israeli flag or whatever, the flag of the month, whatever on your as your backsplash or whatever on your Facebook page. You, you know, I think that shit is so anyway, but, um, it's been heartbreaking to see so many of the people that I knew and cared about years and years ago, who I thought were reasonable people like I thought they were independent thinkers, they were reasonable people and they've got the trans flag on their page. And when I see that I go, oh, another one bites the dust, and that's kind of how I feel about it. So I'm going to yeah, I'm going to leave it there on that topic because I have so much to say about that, but I'm going to dedicate an episode to the whole trans thing, things I've learned, things that I've discovered and the reason why I feel the way I do with that.

Speaker 1:

And again, another area where I'm completely contrarian. So you know, honestly, I don't think I have a single friend left from the gay community. So you know, when you're a contrarian, you kind of have to be willing to walk alone. Sometimes you have to be willing to hold on to your values, to your perspective and your inner guidance, which I trust, and follow my inner guidance.

Speaker 1:

If something does not feel right, seem right and I'm feeling into, you know, to my heart and to my spirit and it smells funky, then I walk away, and sometimes funky, then I walk away and sometimes, you know, we know, there's an awful lot of pressure. You know we saw that during COVID, right, nobody wanted to be called an anti-vaxxer, you know all those names. Or if you support a certain movement, like I supported the truckers in Canada, well, you know, if you did that, then you were, let's see, a racist, a misogynist, you were a bunch of things a Nazi. I think all kinds of you have to. You have to be willing to, um, to walk alone, and you have to be willing to be called names if you're going to do that. And that's why I say I think we need to think long and hard about the things that we're willing to sacrifice for.

Speaker 1:

So, are we so caught up in what other people think of us that we're going to just go with the flow and be manipulated into following movements or following ideologies that are fundamentally anti-human? Or are we going to think for ourselves and take a stand, even if it means that we lose people in our lives, because sometimes that's what it means. And then people, during COVID, people lost their jobs, people lost their livelihoods, people lost relationships with family and friends. It was a really big deal. And then it turns out well, they were kind of right.

Speaker 1:

After all, one day, your heart and determining what it is you're willing to sacrifice for. What in your life are you willing to die for? What hills are you willing to die on? And I think those are the kinds of things that we need to be clear about as we move forward, because there's just growing pressure for us to follow somebody else's agenda. So and we will if we really don't know the hills that we're willing to die on, and whatever that takes, whatever names you're going to call me, you know you don't want to be my friend anymore. You're going to call me whatever. You know. This is the hill I'm willing to die on, so it really doesn't matter.

Speaker 1:

You know in this, you know, and I will say one thing even though I don't consider myself a Christian, I actually have a lot of respect for Christians, because one thing I mean for many reasons, and honestly, I would be a Christian if Christianity was based on just the New Testament and the teachings of Jesus, because I adore Jesus. The shit in the Old Testament, that's. That's pretty effed up. So I don't, you know. So I have an issue, and that's really the only reason why I'm not a Christian is because it's like, yeah, I'll put that shit together and I'm all about Jesus, but not about that. Yeah, that one stuff. I'll talk about that in another episode.

Speaker 1:

But at any rate, I have a tremendous amount of respect for Christians, because that is one thing that I've seen over and over and over again is you can call them names, you can do whatever, but they're not going to cave because you know they believe in their Lord and Savior and that's it, and you're not going to. You know, I mean in throughout history they're. You know, throw them in the fire, you know feed them to the lions and they're not going to budge. And I think that is why they are gone after so hard, because they're dangerous. Christians are dangerous. You cannot bend them to your ways. If your way is satanic, demonic, all of that, yeah, they're not going to walk that road with you and they'll pay whatever price they need to pay, because they're only going to answer to their Lord. They're not going to answer to you. And so, tremendous amount of respect for Christians. Even though I don't consider myself one officially, I have a tremendous amount of respect for them and I will defend. I will defend my Christian friends and family, because when you have these powers that be targeting you as being dangerous. You know you're doing something very, very right. So that's it for me with the sassy contrarian.

Speaker 1:

Thank you so much for hanging out with me today. I'm going to try to do this weekly. I mean, I'm just starting off. I got a lot of stories, I got a lot of things to talk about and of course, there are so much happening in the world that you know I can rant and rave about too. So I don't know if you find value in this. Great, you can, you know, hit the like button or the follow or or just you know, look for me next time. So this is aired on my, on the podcast Patty talks too much, and also on the rumble channel, patty talks too much. You can also find Patty talks too much on Facebook and YouTube. So yeah, so check me out, follow me if you want, or just tune in when, when I drop a podcast or an episode. Thanks for following and stay sassy.