Patti Talks Too Much
Hi. I'm Patti and it's been said - many times - that I talk too much. I'm a teacher, author, nature lover and for ten years I owned a coffeehouse cafe where my faith in the goodness of humans was restored every day. This podcast highlights the awesomeness of humanity - er...outside the warmongers, globalists, tyrants and politicians in general. You know, the rest of us weird, quirky and sometimes hilarious humans.
We'll talk woo, probe mysteries and leave you thinking about something more interesting or entertaining or uplifting than your grocery list, or boss or that oil change your car needs.
I talk too much because I can't help my Gemini moon and Leo Rising nature. I do a podcast because it's cheaper, funnier and more productive than therapy.
Patti Talks Too Much
Building Dreams on a Budget, Rising Crime Waves, and the Power of Personal Choices
What does it take to build a dream home on a tight budget? Join us in this episode as Anoki and her partner share their incredible journey of constructing a new home in North Georgia with limited resources. From hand-clearing land to the challenges of insulating an older house, they provide a detailed account of their hands-on approach and meticulous planning. Along the way, Taylor joins the discussion, and we celebrate the progress and excitement that comes from sheer hard work and innovative strategies.
As the episode progresses, we take a sobering look at the rising crime rates associated with the influx of dangerous criminals from countries like Venezuela. We explore the parallels with historical migrations from Cuba and discuss the broader societal implications, including the disturbing increase in violence and brutality. Additionally, we touch on recent developments involving Julian Assange, election controversies, and alarming vaccine-related issues, painting a comprehensive picture of the challenges currently facing our society.
In the final segments, we delve into the theme of personal responsibility and the limitations of institutional support systems. Anoki shares her courageous journey of rejecting conventional medical treatments for alternative healing methods, emphasizing the resilience required to pursue such paths. We also discuss how personal growth mirrors the physical act of building a home, highlighting the interconnectedness of mind, body, and spirit. Through personal anecdotes, we underscore the transformative power of health and home building, encouraging listeners to take control of their choices and embrace the journey toward holistic well-being.
Good morning if you are joining us live. Good morning. This is Patty, with Patty Talks Too Much, and I'm here with my dear friend Enoki and it's a it's kind of an overcast, gray day here in Georgia. We are we are Anokhi and I are like about 40 minutes apart in in North Georgia, so we're both experiencing the same weather. Taylor, you know, I did give her a wake-up call but it went right to voicemail, so I don't know what that means for her to.
Speaker 2:They might need to sleep but um yeah, but so enoki and I have already been talking a little bit. She's been giving me a little tour, so I might have you just repeat yourself a little bit, enoki, because I think this is really exciting. So the, the home kit has arrived a little over a week ago and Enoki and her partner are moving through slowly to do the build out, you know. So you want to just, you want to just say very briefly, enoki I know we've already been talking about this, but very briefly what you've done so far this week and how you're approaching this build out on a, you know, on a small budget.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so we're just trying to do things in like small strides. You know, I mean, getting the building here was like a huge thing. That was that was really time constricted, you know, like we only had two weeks to clear the land, to grade the driveway. We didn't have any big tools so we did everything by hand, with stiff breaks it's a huge amount of work, yeah oh, it was a lot of work.
Speaker 1:It was a lot, a lot of work and and, uh, it was exhausting. And now, um, now we have the building here, we don't have time restraints like getting it set up, so we're just trying to do a little bit of it, you know, consistently. You know to work towards the end goal of it being done, but also not to like break the bank because it's. You know to work towards the end goal of it being done, but also not to like break the bank because it's. You know it's 800 square feet, which means it's 800 square feet of walls, 800 square feet of floors, 800 square feet of ceiling, and that's not counting in the interior walls that we put in. That's additional square footage for walling that we're putting into it.
Speaker 2:You know plus we have electric and things like that.
Speaker 1:So you know, last weekend we got the breaker panel and stuff and this weekend we got ten sheets of drywall to try to do the studio room that I'm working. So it's going to be the music studio, master slash recording. I have my guitars.
Speaker 2:Taylor just joined us, so I wanted to say good morning.
Speaker 3:I wanted to say good morning to Taylor Anoki you already have walls up.
Speaker 2:Isn't that crazy? Yeah, anoki, you already have walls up. Isn't that crazy? Yeah, anoki, you're already putting up walls Look look sheetrock hey.
Speaker 3:Jen.
Speaker 1:Hey, Jen. What's up, Jen? Yes, this is where you're going to sit in.
Speaker 2:Oh, that's awesome, that's awesome and you know so Anoki was saying earlier. I mean, it's not like you know. So they're working on like a budget where they put aside every week. You know it's like okay, we can spend this, that's right, every week.
Speaker 1:And as long as we're making a little bit of progress, it's, you know it's going to happen in time.
Speaker 2:And then we can take care of two things you know the right way, and stuff and nice, and you know you know I'm really looking forward to being a lot warmer this winter yeah, okay, well, anoki, so I know you have that wonderful antique stove in the main building now are you have that wonderful antique? Stove in the main building. Now are you bringing that up here? Or I mean, when you say keep warm, how are you guys doing?
Speaker 1:No, both houses are going to stay completely together. But this house because it's not 120-something years old. It has nice new insulation and stuff we're gonna do um some foam boards and things as well, you know and insulation is so important.
Speaker 1:It is, you know, like you yeah you spend your time in florida and everything's concrete block. You know you don't really know so coming up you, you know the stick frame houses, wood houses. You know you really have to pack the walls. It's cold. Even though we have some insulation down there and stuff, there's still some walls that are so old and so complexly put together.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:You know it would compromise the integrity of my house to take it apart to put insulation to put insulation so we've insulated what we, what we could and things you know, but it still, you know, has some, some gaps and cracks. That you know, lets them in, but luckily the wood stove and our space heaters and stuff you know make a really big difference yeah, that that keeps you warm, like yeah so, but but in here you know we're gonna be hot now how are you?
Speaker 1:gonna do a mini split, probably because the mini splits um are are like a dollar a week to run what is that they do? A really good job, you just a mini split is for your air conditioner and and put a little, a little box outside and it's got what looks like a hotel, a hotel blower like more wide, you know, and uh, and it it has directional vents, you know okay I know what you're talking about.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so you do you do like your main room with the mini split and then you take these little fans that are in like a little box and they mount right into the wall and you can turn them on and they'll pull air from the main room like a ductless duct you know um. So it'll blow the cold air from the main room into the bedrooms or the work rooms or whatever you know, and then it's like having central ac, but it's just the mini split.
Speaker 1:Now your, your room, that you have the mini split in is always going to be colder than the rest of the house of course, but they do a really great job of cooling that room, so much to the point that, with like adequate vents, yeah you're, you're able to share that air with the rooms, and the vents in the wall make it so that you can have the door closed, you know, and still have privacy but, be, you know, pulling that air from the other room without like an open ceiling or something you know, sure what about heat, anoki, the mini splits also, so they one okay, I didn't know that they they do both and they're like a dollar, you know, like I said, they're so cheap to run a mini split that it's it's so worth it, you know but my dad didn't have camper.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, I mean they, they're too much for campers really they're too much yeah, and for tiny homes. People put them in the tiny homes because they're great, they're power efficient, they run 120. You don't have to really worry about you know power and you don't have to worry about a major installation process because it's just a hose going through the wall. But they're too much for that small of an's, not a tiny home, right, you know yeah.
Speaker 3:That is, that is so that is so awesome. You're showing us all how to do it, man, that's right. Other really awesome things.
Speaker 1:So all this work is really paying off because other really awesome things. For this week where I weighed in at 176 and none of my clothes were fitting at all, I went to Ross to try to figure out what size clothes I am. I was like, well, I'll go to Ross, I'll try on a bunch of stuff, I'll see what size I am, and then I'll go to Goodwill. But it's really exciting when you've been unhealthy and not able to do things and not yourself. You know, to get back to you, to feel good about you, to have energy to. You know be able to like even picking my son up. You know like since he's been born it's been hard for me to carry him. You know I have back problems, whatever. You know, since I started losing all this weight, I like picked him up like he was a feather congratulations, sanuki.
Speaker 2:That's awesome. It's like everything all at once. You know new, new home and, um listen, things are changing. Before that four-leaf clover, it was just a confirmation. That's awesome.
Speaker 3:Do you guys want to see something fun?
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Always Look at my hair. Oh no, oh.
Speaker 1:I love it. It's blonde.
Speaker 3:So I read my horoscope this morning. Do you guys ever feel super cringe about horoscopes?
Speaker 2:I. I don't know what you mean by that I don't really associate super cringe with horoscopes it made me uncomfortable.
Speaker 3:So essentially, my horoscope was saying that I have to put my famous discipline to use and weave words that are actually and I do love this soul certified.
Speaker 2:Your famous discipline.
Speaker 3:I have some sense of discipline. I'm a really hard worker.
Speaker 1:My horoscope was really weird this week too, I I got a.
Speaker 1:I get emails from this, this lady who's really like pretty consistent but like uh, I never pay for any of this stuff, but she just she sends me what she sends me and then I'm like, all right, I can use this, you know, and then I go from there with whatever it is. And she said that somebody that I was really close with was really two-faced and on the 28th they were gonna show their true self and all this stuff. You know nothing, nothing happened.
Speaker 2:But I went the whole week, you know, with this like oh, yeah, see, that's sometimes, I think, like you hear stuff like that and then you accidentally manifest it. Well, not in that case, that would be hard to do, but sometimes you know, you hear things and you end up manifesting it.
Speaker 3:So well you know so my dad called me at work the other night and he you know my dad, when he calls me late nights I usually assume he's had a couple drinks and I'll talk to him later. Um, but it was so I was like concerned. You know he lives by himself and it was late. So I answered the phone and, um, he's like listen, are you at work right now? And I was like yeah, and he's like I need you to be careful. And I'm like what do you mean? And he was like I don't know, I just have a feeling and I need you to be careful and make sure that you have your knife on you when you leave tonight. So all night at work I was like looking over my shoulder, waiting for us to be robbed at gunpoint, like what is going on, and nothing happened. But it still scared the shit out of me because my dad doesn't behave like that does he know what happened by your house last week?
Speaker 2:oh no, this was before last week, but it was just really interesting because that doesn't happen usually there's a lot of um stuff in the air about people, particularly women, um, you know, being a little less safe these days because there are a lot of things that have been happening in places that you would think would be safe but ended up not being safe. And so there's there's a lot going on, particularly with women. So if you're a woman alone, if you're a woman traveling with your, your children, things are more vulnerable. It doesn't get covered a lot in the news, but people feel it, they sense it. We have had an influx of folks who have come into our country, who have come out of prisons and mental institutions, and so we have some pretty dangerous folks who are now roaming our streets.
Speaker 1:We have enough of our own dangerous folks. I don't know. Yeah, we do.
Speaker 2:Well like so. For instance, the 12-year-old girl who was raped and murdered by three men. So 12-year-old raped and murdered by three men. The year old raped and murdered.
Speaker 1:Was that a girl that was missing from Gainesville?
Speaker 2:no, no, I don't think it was.
Speaker 2:They still haven't found her right yeah, they still haven't found her, but this, this girl was all three of them were from Venezuela. So one of the things about the you know, many of the folks who are coming in from Venezuela mean like they've tried to deport some of these people back to Venezuela and Venezuela is like we don't want them, you know we don't. So these particularly are. Many of them are criminals from prisons and mental institutions and so we're seeing like when you say, when you hear a crime has been committed by someone from venezuela, then you can be sure that they were probably from um a prison in venezuela and they just kind of were, you know, let loose and a lot of people from venezuela, I mean I love venezuelans, but how the gangs have taken over in parts of Venezuela.
Speaker 1:Because I'll tell you, like man, every time I ever like had a Spanish friend, you know, and I would go to their house. I would just wish that my family life was like that, like their dads were so loving and protective and kind, you know, and not in a creepy way, you know, and their moms were so nurturing and over the. The people that I always knew growing up from Venezuela were like amazing people.
Speaker 2:Amazing.
Speaker 1:Amazing people. I don't want them to lose their light, you know, by thinking the world is seeing them as that. You know, instead of the beautiful, amazing people like mexican men, you know, yeah, god, like they're the best coolest fucking dad and the people that I knew. You know they all came here because there was problems there and they didn't want well, how did, how did they? But that was like when it was starting out. You know, yeah, but a lot of these.
Speaker 2:But but you're you're talking about people who came, like you know, like most of us are from immigrant. I mean, all my family is from immigrant families and they didn't they they didn't come in that way.
Speaker 2:They came in like the regular way and then they got, they got the green card and then they got naturalized and they came here because they were coming for, like, more opportunities. So there are a lot of those folks. But what I'm talking about is a surge from uh, this, this surge of um, people like, for instance, the um when cuba there was the whole. What was it called? It was called the boat, the boat, something that happened with Cuban. What happened was Castro emptied out all of his jails and his mental institutions and sent them, you know, and and sent them to the United States, like that happened. In that I think it happened in the 70s, but I think what we're seeing is we're seeing more of that.
Speaker 2:So a lot of the, a lot of the foot there are, you know, there are ordinary people who are coming in, you know, with, with families, but there is a large number of folks who are, who are connected to the cartels and who are gang members, and those are the ones who are really dangerous, are gang members and those are the ones who are really dangerous. I don't think we in America have any idea how dangerous the cartel. We haven't lived under cartel occupation, like many of the places in Mexico. There are many people from Mexico who are getting out of Mexico because their whole towns and their whole cities have been taken over by the cartel and it's actually extremely dangerous to live in these places. So they're coming to America to get away from the cartels.
Speaker 2:And so I think when the cartels kind of migrate to, and many of the members migrate to America, I think we're going to start seeing some of the horrors that some of these people have been facing in Mexico and in El Salvador and in Venezuela. These people have been dealing with these cartels for a long time. We have and I know we have our problems here. We have a lot of problems in America, but I don't think that we've had to deal with the level of brutality and violence that the cartels bring with them. And so that's. You know that that is something that we may have to. We may have to deal with, you know, in in the coming years.
Speaker 2:I think I'm like I'm not a doom and gloomer, but I think that over the next six months we are going to have to deal with I mean, there's a lot coming. I actually feel really great about what might be on the other side of this, but the some of this, the darkness that we have to walk through. We're going to have to walk through levels of disclosure that people haven't had to deal with. Julian Assange is out and he is dropping the dime on so many things. So there's all of that chaos.
Speaker 2:There's the chaos the election in our country, which is now like a total shambles.
Speaker 3:There's stuff coming out about the vaccines.
Speaker 2:And now, just this week, there was a study that came out that has now confirmed that 74% of the sudden death people because there's been all of these, there's been this excess deaths and the sudden deaths 74% of them. Now this is now peer reviewed vaccine related. That's huge. We have States now suing Pfizer. There are now five States suing Pfizer, you know. So there are all of these things that are that are crumbling, that are crumbling down. You know we have disclosure coming out about 9-11. Now we I mean, like all in the last two weeks, there are things, there are things coming out.
Speaker 2:And the key thing about Julian Assange and he said it, he said when, when, when the truth is totally revealed, 98 percent of Washington DC will fall. So we are going to see a crumbling of our DC and you know, honestly, let it go because you know, let it go because it's so thoroughly corrupt. But the thing is is like we're going to see kind of a disintegration of our, of our, of our federal government as as we move forward and and so oh, and there's the oh, and let's throw in the crash of the dollar. So our dollar is not, it's not the petrodollar anymore, so, and they've been kind of holding back, not wanting to let the people know. But when the American dollar crashes, then there's a whole lot of things that come down. Now this is all in the next six months. So we're going to walk through. You know, there's so many of us have been saying, well, you know, it's got to go, it's got to come down before we can build something new. Let it come All right, yes, I agree, and we're going to have to walk through it, we're going to have to live through it, we're going to have to navigate the chaos, we're going to have to keep our heads on straight, we're going to have to keep our hearts and our spirits as calm as possible as shit is hitting the fan, because it's just inevitable over the next six months. And so I think the three of us are in really good, really good positions and we've all we've been kind of doing the work, you know, and, noki, you've been doing it in your own way, I've been doing it in my own way Taylor's been doing.
Speaker 2:It's not like any of this stuff is gonna smack us upside the head and say, oh my God, I didn't see that coming. I think we kind of anticipated it right, but there are a lot of people in our country who have no idea what is about to kind of come, you know, come at them, but we do, and we might not be like 100% prepared for what's happening. There might be some things we're like, whoa, how am I going to deal with this? But at least we're not going to be gobsmacked, at least we're not going to be like, oh, I can't believe this is happening. Because I think the three of us we've been aware, we know that these, these things are happening and you know, we know that we've we're going to have to know that they've kind of been happening too, you know, to to extent, you know it's like, it's like my um, you know, back to the, the whole, you know, kidnapping in venezuela, stuff, all that.
Speaker 1:My friend ed is like 38, I want to say. I want to say he's two years older than me but he came to this country. I went to high school with him and when we were in high school he said his family came to this country because his dad was in some influential position. I don't know if it was like acting or what, but they were well off. They were really well off. They had a nanny, they had a butler, they had all these people you know working for them or whatever you know. And they, they kidnapped him, his nanny and his butler kidnapped him from his family and his family gave up everything to get him back. Yeah, and with what little they had left they came here, you know, and and I believe that that they did not do that legally, you know, I believe they just they got the hell out of there they just
Speaker 1:got the hell out of there somebody took their fucking kid, you know like fucked up, you know, and they left. They didn't care what they had, what they could have yeah, yeah, they just got you know now, this was this was.
Speaker 2:These were closest people. Where was?
Speaker 1:that I don't know if he's from. I want to say he's from venezuela, but it could be mexico, el salvador.
Speaker 2:It could be el salvador. Yeah, no, he's not mexican he's no okay he's like.
Speaker 1:he's like very fair, skinskinned, dark hair, very well-spoken Spanish. I want to say that it was higher-end Venezuela, because they're more Spaniard there.
Speaker 2:Yep, they are there. It's like Argentina. Argentina is a very elegant Spaniard, you know.
Speaker 1:so was Venezuela. So they were from that good, that old, dignified country. And all that happened to them and they were like we're just getting out of here. And I believe he just got his citizenship, he went to high school, did everything here, lived only new here. Really, you know and just became a citizen, but but he, he had to flee there. You know so, because that was what I was going to say, not everybody that that is fleeing, that situation is part of, oh yeah you know a lot of them are victims of that, trying to get away absolutely that yeah and I'm sorry if I gave that impression.
Speaker 2:yeah, but that's not, you know.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I just wanted to clarify. Oh yeah, no, I'm glad Because I agree Not all of it is like old immigration, or you know, not everybody who's family are immigrants came over, you know and actually immigrated. A lot of people had to come the hard way.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, they're getting the hell out of Dodge. There's this book that I want to mention because it has to do with what you're what you're talking about, anoki, and I read it back just a just a little while ago. It's called American Dirt and it's marketed as fiction, but it is so based on real experiences, but you can tell. And so, basically, this woman and her nine-year-old son flee Mexico to come to America and they come through the southern border, they travel on top of trains and all of that. They travel on top of trains and all of that, and it is absolutely treacherous and just the detail of what they go through and what they suffer through to get here, just trying to survive, just trying to survive, just trying to get to a place that they can survive and not die.
Speaker 2:It's absolutely treacherous, but the reason why this mother decided to come to America that way with her nine-year-old son was because the whole book starts with a quinceanera party at their home for a member of the family. Now her husband was a journalist in this town, and what happens is these cartel members show up and they kill everyone at the party. So her whole family is wiped out in moments, and the only reason why she and her son survived is because they were in the bathroom and they hid in the shower, and so when the men swept the house they didn't see them hiding in the corner of the shower, and so from that point on she knew she needed to escape. She needed to get out of Mexico and come, because it was the cartel who they were coming after her family, and the thing, what was so crazy was everywhere she went along the way, like to stay at a hotel while she's trying to get somewhere. The people in the hotel were paid by the cartel you know to to be the eyes and the ears of the cartel. Like she felt, like she wasn't safe anywhere Because everybody was was on the was on the you know was basically of the cartel.
Speaker 2:You know just, you know people everywhere and and what a, what a terrifying. And that's why I was thinking it's like, yeah, this is, this is um, build as fiction, but um, there's so much and I didn't do the research into um, the, the writer, and I and I'm and I forget her name, but awesome book, it's called American Dirt and oh, is it an eye opener. So I think it's a book that you know, everyone should read, because it really does chronicle and show how treacherous and how brutal the cartels are and just how treacherous it is to try to escape them, like once they have yeah, it's not like.
Speaker 1:It's not like the fbi or government or country or whatever that's in one place. You know, it's definitely a whole network of of of people you know, and little little ladies and old men and young kids, and you know people from all over, all walks of of life. You know, because they really figured out, you know money money you know will manipulate people to do a lot of things, of course.
Speaker 1:I mean, these are you know you know, but then, yeah, then they cover their bases. So it's not if you mess up with them, it's not you, it's you and your whole family, absolutely, and and it's you wherever you go, it's any country, it doesn't matter where you go, because there are people from everywhere. Yeah, they have eyes. So games of any any time. You know they've got the FBI, you know they've got all that like. Looks like nothing compared to them.
Speaker 2:I mean, I think, like you, you know, you have people who have say, bought into, okay, this is what I need to do to be, you know, rich, or I want to be rich and I want to have the fame. And so then they, they climb that ladder and they live, they get to that life and everything and they make whatever compromises they have to make to get there. And they get there, and then they have epiphanies and I also think, like this is all part of the awakening. So you have a lot of those folks that you're talking about going through their own awakening and saying, whoa, so this is the perspective change. They're waking up and they're saying how do I really want to make a difference in my community and in the world? And this is what I want to do.
Speaker 2:I don't want to promote the shit that the music industry wants me to promote. I want to promote other things. I want to promote other things. I want to promote peace. I want to promote, you know, empowerment. I want to promote, you know, these, these things, you know, compassion and and and so forth, and so they're, and that that's now what they're they're putting out. So I think that's just evidence of more, more people waking up and changing their, you know, using using this, this influential position that they have to share. Like you know, using using this, this influential position that they have to share, like, you know, the Kings that you're referring to, to share a perspective that's very different, like they don't want to go into the community and say yo, yo, you know it's all about. You know, bitches and hoes, you know.
Speaker 1:so it's all about it's all about the Benjamins. Everything in moderation, yeah, everything in moderation I think, like you know, it's all about the Benjamins. Everything in moderation, yeah, everything in moderation. I think, like you know, yeah, sex is great. You know, like drugs can be fun sometimes, you know, depending on which ones, but after so long, like, what else do you have, you know? And then I think, like a lot of people you know are giving up, like in the drug world. The drugs are so People are just zombies.
Speaker 2:It's horrible.
Speaker 1:It's like eating the Tide Pods. All the kids were eating the Tide Pods and dying or whatever, and they kept doing it, they kept doing it, they didn't stop doing it, they died. But what else were they? Looking at them like, a lot of like the, the prostitutes that are out on the street, you know, were like raped by their father or their uncles or their family members, you know, until they were like nothing. And then, by the time that they had like reached, you know, an age to actually start dating, you know, and they start sharing their experiences, then they're shunned and you know they're yeah, oh, absolutely yeah, and yeah, thrown out to nothing.
Speaker 1:And so then you know what do they do? They start walking the streets. You know what happens more people want to come up and and use them like that, you know. And then somebody gives them some drugs and they start doing drugs. You know like, and never at any point was there like an option or a different perspective for them to grab onto. You know, we're not like the Netherlands, but we won't give anybody any help, you know. And then we want to condemn them for how bad it gets by the end of it.
Speaker 2:And see here's the thing, Inoki it gets by the end of it. And see here's the thing, Enoki, I know, like you know, and I have empathy for the folks out there who have fallen into fentanyl, who have fallen into you know, they're out on the street and so forth and, however, the reason why you things turned around for you was the choices that you made. Could there have been help? Yes, but ultimately the choices that you've made. Could there have been help? Yes, but ultimately it's our choices. We have to take responsibility for the choices that we make.
Speaker 2:We've all made really, really bad choices and we've gone down some roads that maybe we shouldn't have gone down. But at some point, maybe it's through hitting bottom or whatever that we start making different choices. And I think the further down the road you go, the deep, dark road you go, it's harder. It takes more effort to come out of that, and so oftentimes people give up and they just, they're just on the process of killing themselves slowly. That's really what it is, but it's really, too, all about choice. So we could say the government should have done more, the schools should have done more, the medical system should have done more, but one of the things that's becoming glaring. Yeah, the glaringly obvious thing right now and it's going to become even more obvious is those institutions aren't going to help us. We're on our own. So it's really about us taking responsibility for our mental health, for our physical health, for our physical health, for our skills.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you know, I think that was like part of my whole epiphany was separating myself from the institutions and from the labeling and from the organizations and from, you know, aa, telling me that I was never going to be better. Telling me that, you know, I was. I was dirty in my soul, you know, making me feel like like nothing was going to make it better ever started, just one step at a time, doing the decision that I wanted to do.
Speaker 3:That felt that was right, you know, and not what everybody was like oh, this is what you're gonna do, you know, and then me doing that you know, like the suggestiveness of my life falling apart was part of what made my life fall apart yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like what we were talking about earlier. Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1:It was what was condemning.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you know you took your life back. True, I mean in these organizations, even AA and NA, I mean it's really. I mean I'm not saying that they don't do good work in the community, but they are really set up for people to be completely dependent on them.
Speaker 2:They serve as an authority in the community and I think like, ultimately, what we have to come to is that we are the ultimate authority over our lives and and we are the ones who are making choices. We have free will and we need to make these choices, and sometimes it means saying fuck you to all of the forces, all of the authorities in our lives, because they don't, it turns out, have our best interest in mind. Let me share a little something that's going on in my life. That's exactly like what you're talking about, Anokhi, but it looks different, obviously, right. So I've got this diagnosis. Well, yeah, pretty much it's a diagnosis, right? I have both rheumatoid arthritis and osteoarthritis. I have both going on in a diagnosis, right, I have both rheumatoid arthritis and osteoarthritis. Like, I have both going on in my body right, mostly in my hands. Now there's no cure.
Speaker 2:So what do they say? They say, well, you know, there's a stuff you can take for pain and there's a stuff you can take and there's drugs, but then there are these side effects and everything, and so, basically, I'm 65, 65 years old, and you're telling me that I'm going to spend the rest of my life on these medications? No, that's not, that's not how I want to live, you know. And so many of these medications. They they might make your symptoms better, but then they make the condition worse. Like they might reduce inflammation, but then they they chip away at your joints and your bones. It's like, why would I do that? So, anyway, I have made a decision that I'm not going to take pain medication and I'm not going to take the medication that they say will help my condition. So now I'm dealing with, like my regular doctor and a rheumatologist right, and they're not bad people, they're just doctors who are trained in this particular Western medicine that I'm kind of skeptical about.
Speaker 2:But the problem is, is like, now what? So then I had to do my own research, and so then I come to the decision that and I might have mentioned that there's a functional doctor who wrote this book about how you can heal your arthritis by healing your gut, you know, through nutrition. All right, I like that, that's my jam, right. So I've been doing that, but I haven't really been seeing the results. And then I found another one which is all about do these cleanses? You do a parasite cleanse, you do a liver cleanse, you do a colon cleanse. You do these things and through these cleanses you are able to put your body in a position to be able to heal itself.
Speaker 2:So but let me tell you something, inoki, this stuff is not for the faint of heart, like when somebody decides, for instance, that they don't want to follow Western medicine and they want to do the in, the in. They want to cure their cancer a different way. Oh goodness, it's not like just, oh, I'm going to take this vitamin every day and my cancer is going to go away. No, they go through. I mean, it's like it's a total commitment to overhaul their bodies to be able to turn their cancer around. So you have to be willing to do that anyway.
Speaker 2:So a couple of things happened in this last week. So I have these doctors who want to follow up on me because they've given me these prescriptions that I'm not taking. I fill the prescription and I put it in a drawer. I'm not going to take it. So what I'm doing in the meantime is following my own thing. So these cleanses and changing my diet and doing supplements. Well, I was supposed to go to Massachusetts this summer. I was supposed to be leaving next week to go up and spend some time with my family, and I came to a very, very difficult decision this past week.
Speaker 2:It kind of made me cry a little because, I realized that you know, because I have to go back to work at the end of July and I have to be functional, I have to be able to kind of function as a teacher. I mean, even though we are not doing manual work like all the stuff you do, you still got to do some things.
Speaker 2:Right, you have to be functional in the class, and your hands Wow, you know that affects everything. So, anyway, I decided to commit myself to doing a series of these cleanses this summer, and when you go through these things and Noki, you probably know you can't be on vacation when you're doing some of these things. Right?
Speaker 1:Yeah, you can't mess.
Speaker 2:You know what I mean Like these are. It's really intense. So I made the decision that, rather than going up north, I was going to fully commit myself to doing this series of cleanses this summer, while I had an opportunity before I went back to work and I had to then tell my mother that I wasn't coming and I wasn't coming up north because and my mom was.
Speaker 2:I was I think I was sadder than her. She like really understood what I was saying. Of course my mom is all about natural remedies and everything, but she also fully is aware she had a. She had a um, a friend who died from the effects of rheumatoid arthritis and the reason why she died was because after so many years of taking like medication for her pain, her it affected her liver and her organs and they shut down and she died.
Speaker 2:That's how much of an effect it had, because it was all the pain medication that she was taking over the years to deal with her arthritis and the pain of her arthritis. So my mom, she, she, she kind of she gets it, you know she gets like I have this diagnosis, I'm 65 years old and I have to make some very real decisions about how I'm going to spend. I mean, I would like to live another 20 years or so. It's definitely affected my hands and definitely a lot of you know some pain and definitely some discomfort, you know every day and it affects everything you do. But I will say this that in the last week I've also begun to see some of the inflammation go down and I've had some like I see, wow, I think I think I'm on to something. I think I may be able to really get this going. So I'm just at the very tail end of a parasite cleanse. Next week I'll be doing a liver, a liver cleanse, that's. That'll be pretty intense, but it's. There's a lot you know, and I just in for anybody who might be listening and they want to know more about this journey I am doing like a separate podcast.
Speaker 2:I'm doing like a separate podcast that's called can I heal my arthritis naturally, and I do put it up on my my Patty talks too much channel, you know, for a podcast, and also on Rumble. So if folks want to look for that, you know, after I do each cleanse and as I move through, I'm going to be letting people know okay, this is, this is how it's going. These are the results. I don't know. I'm either going to be successful or not, and if I'm not successful, then I'll I'll have to, you know, go with, you know, more of a traditional approach, but my whole goal is to to do this completely naturally. So, but yeah, can I heal my arthritis Naturally? I stopped doing this separate podcast and, like, once a month, you know, I'll give an update on how things are going. But but I do feel like I've I've made a little. I've been able to see like a little bit of progress this week, but it was still kind of a sad week because I, you know, I had to make a really hard decision about, you know, investing my, my summer in doing these series of cleanses before I returned to work and some of the things you know, like you know, I won't go into detail now, but, like you know, in my, in my podcast on arthritis, I go into detail about what it really looks like to to do this every day, what I'm doing every like.
Speaker 2:I'm not going to go into the details in this, in this podcast, but, like it's not for the faint of heart, it is not. This approach is not for the faint of heart. You really have to be all in. So this is the commitment that I've made.
Speaker 2:But, like, just like you, inoki, when you woke up that day and you said I'm taking my life back, this is, and so for me, it's like I'm generally a very healthy person and would like to live a long, healthy life, and this is, you know, this is getting in the way, so I'm going to deal with it in as natural a way as possible and these are my choices. And, of course, every time I see my doctor, it's like um, these are the choices that I'm making and no, I'm not taking that medication that you told me I should take. This is what I'm doing instead, and I feel like if I can be showing progress every time I go to my doctor and say and see, these are the results of the choices that I'm making, and this is why I'm doing this approach because I'm seeing results.
Speaker 1:And they can't argue with that. Yeah, exactly, and I and that was that was that was kind of like when I did the whole reset on on my life and you know, yeah, my viewpoint, you know, it's kind of like what's happening now know, like like I, I felt, you know, I felt like I saw the progress.
Speaker 1:I felt like people who didn't believe that progress was possible you know was were able to see that you know yeah, and and like right now, with like the weight loss and like being able, like, like I was getting to a point where I was like, wow, you know, like maybe you really just you just can't, you know, pass a certain point you know, you just can't you know, you have to evolve yourself because you can't be who you were, you know, which is true. You know, to an extent, like, like, but but physically, you know, I feel like I've gone back 10 years. You know, I feel like I've gotten time back, you know from stuff.
Speaker 1:And that in itself is, like you know, changing the viewpoint, changing the. You know I can, you know, get rid of this. You know pain and this you, you know weight and all this shit that I'm carrying around and you know I I can go back to, to you know who I want to be and shape myself as a person.
Speaker 1:You know and find things that work for me to be able to be me. You know like and and I see that that's like you know in the last few weeks I you know better emotionally and mentally and physically. You know I feel like there's an alignment happening.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:You know, with my, with my directions and stuff you know, and that's inspiring. You know it's making me feel good because I feel good I can. You know kind of banter. You know back and forth, which is where all the great things you know come from just talking to the nothingness you know. And so like, like you know, fixing my physical, you know body has been helping my mental body, which is helping my spiritual body to connect.
Speaker 1:It's all connected so it's kind of like going through another reset, you know like, and I'm interested to see where this whole next saga goes you know, and since all this has started like, we got the building here we're putting in. You know the walls and the first room that we're finishing in, you know the the walls and we're the first room that we're finishing is the music, your music studio and yeah which is really awesome. You know, like, like, as soon as I I have this room climate controlled, I can bring instruments up yeah, yeah, set some things up, you know, and and and whatnot.
Speaker 1:We did get floor for this room too, um, so so we have floor for this room and we've got floor for two other rooms, um, but we still need the main area to get some floor. But I mean you know, like like it's like big they're. They're little little things, you know, but when you start putting them together, they're really big.
Speaker 1:But part of all of this, you know, was getting healthy, having a positive outlook, starting to think of how we could change to make things work you know, for everyone, and then physically being able to do it.
Speaker 2:You know I am just a hopeless english teacher, anoki, so you know I've got to connect something to like metaphor story, so I'm going to do that, okay. So, um, your story, right, like you're going through this mind, body, spirit journey, right, and you know, and so am. But I'm just looking at your story and, like every week we get an update on, like this house that you're building and I think, like home, like our home, is also a reflection of us. It's like you know what I mean, it's a reflection of us. So, so, while you're going through this process, this transformation, while you're going through this process, this transformation mind, body, spirit there's this outer expression, this house. That's like a metaphor for your life, where it is being built and created room by room, piece by piece. And I find it really interesting not surprising at all that the very first room you are finishing is the room where you will be most creative.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you know, because I think creativity is like where it's at. Yeah, absolutely I've needed this space. I think that Jen's needed this space. I'm really excited for what we do for Nidus and stuff like yeah, his, his room and school area and stuff are going to be really, really exciting.
Speaker 2:I, of course I I'm going to look forward to all of the updates as we move forward. It's really exciting and I think it's also really inspiring for folks who want to feel more empowered in their lives by maybe getting their own little piece of land and building out their own home and they think, oh, I can't do that because I don't have a bunch of money. You can figure it out. You can figure out how to do it on a smaller budget.
Speaker 1:I think you are definitely a be the change that you want to see kind of person. Yeah, and you know, I am too, and I think you know like the world shoves these realities on our throat and they're like this is what you got. You are we're like yeah, I don't think so no no, I don't think so.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah and I think you know, for me, enoki, and um, I don't know if you also have this experience, but sometimes, I mean, I think for me it's meant that sometimes I live a more solitary life, kind of, when you go your own way and you don't go the way of you know, whatever people think you should, or you don't think along the ways that people think you should think, then, know, oftentimes it means that, um, you, you do walk a more solitary road. Um, so you have to be like, really strong, you have to be really, really strong, and uh to to walk a more solitary road.
Speaker 1:Um, sometimes it's hard to be strong because everybody is fixated on the fact that it's easier to be weak. It's hard to be strong because everybody is fixated on the fact that it's easier to be weak it's easier to be what to be weak like not fight or not, try or not, you know. Yeah, it's easier to not push past that first point, you know like that first point. The first wave in the break is the toughest to get over. But the first wave in the break is this is toughest to get over but once you get over the break.
Speaker 1:it's just flat smooth, that's right.
Speaker 2:It's like an ocean.
Speaker 1:That's right.
Speaker 2:No, that's right. That's such a good analogy, because that is, you know, that is true. It's kind of like making that first, you know that first stand Getting it yeah, jumping off of the dock, yep.
Speaker 2:Making that first decision, Absolutely, you know, just deciding to, and the thing is is that if it's aligned with, like our hearts and our spirits, you know our real being, then it'll, it'll work out. It'll work out. It just takes a lot of courage, though, to go to initially go against the flow, you know, because the flow is just like don't think about it, just come on, just do what everybody else is doing, Think the way everybody else is thinking. It's gonna be so much easier, and it does. It takes a lot more effort, and it takes a lot more courage to say Nope, I'm going to go this way Because you're right, you've got to. You've got to jump that first wave, you know, that first wave of resistance, and and sometimes it does get over the break, yeah, you got to get over the break.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, absolutely, absolutely, absolutely. And then, once you know you're out there, I think of those, um, I think of baby turtles and um, you know, when they hatch on the beach and you just it's, it's just such a, an amazing thing to see, you know, these tiny little beings and and and they're just moments old and they're walking towards the ocean, these waves, and, and you know, and they're walking towards the ocean because it's their home, and and and and, instinctually, in their very core, they know and they're walking towards the ocean and these waves are coming.
Speaker 2:Right, the waves are coming, but somehow, miraculously, they make it into the ocean. Sometimes they get swept back a little bit and then they have to, but once they make just like you said, anoki, once they make it past that first break, then their life is ahead of them in the wide ocean, or the wide ocean of possibility.
Speaker 2:Right, their life is ahead of them, and I think it's just such a, you know, great metaphor for humans and for existence for existence and for life, and it's, it's beautiful, and I mean that's why I called my my book, that's why I titled my book perilous and beautiful, because it was this analogy of kind of going in and not giving up, not giving up, you know, and it's and it can be very perilous, but it's also really really beautiful. Like I wouldn't trade my life for someone else's life you know what I mean like it's been in a lot of ways.
Speaker 2:It's been it's sometimes it's been perilous, you know, and sometimes you know you are walking a solitary road, but it's also kind of it's also, it's also beautiful, so touche to us.
Speaker 1:But yeah, yeah, we got this. We accidentally figured this, we accidentally figured it out.
Speaker 2:We accidentally figured it out.
Speaker 2:And I think, too, one of the things that you and I, another thing that you and I have in common is that we tend to, if we lead at all, we lead by example. It's good to also remind people that we all have it in us, you know, we all, we all have it in us to um, to to make more empowered choices about, you know, in our lives, and we all have the courage to like. Courage exists in all of us, right? So we all have courage. It's just whether or not we're going to utilize it or not. Yeah, so, but anyway, as as always this has been, it's always such a delight to spend a little time on Saturday mornings with you. I'm looking forward to, to more updates. I'm sure when we, when we talk again, there'll be, there'll be more progress to show, and so that's all really, really exciting, yeah definitely definitely every, every time, something will be different, something yeah, yeah
Speaker 2:and that's awesome, that's awesome. Well, one wall at a time, one wall, one wall at a time. I tell you it's a great metaphor for your life at this point and for all of us, really, and hopefully. You know, it's still gray out there, so I guess we're just going to have to provide our own sunshine. Today, we'll provide our own sunshine, own sunshine.
Speaker 3:so um, at any rate, um, I hope, uh, you all have a great week and um sending y'all much love.
Speaker 1:Love you guys, see you next week. Next week, it is bye, thank you.