Patti Talks Too Much
Hi. I'm Patti and it's been said - many times - that I talk too much. I'm a teacher, author, nature lover and for ten years I owned a coffeehouse cafe where my faith in the goodness of humans was restored every day. This podcast highlights the awesomeness of humanity - er...outside the warmongers, globalists, tyrants and politicians in general. You know, the rest of us weird, quirky and sometimes hilarious humans.
We'll talk woo, probe mysteries and leave you thinking about something more interesting or entertaining or uplifting than your grocery list, or boss or that oil change your car needs.
I talk too much because I can't help my Gemini moon and Leo Rising nature. I do a podcast because it's cheaper, funnier and more productive than therapy.
Patti Talks Too Much
Premonitions and Pileups, Nighttime Police Encounters, and Animal Spirit Guides
Ever felt like life throws you into the whirlwind of chaos, testing every ounce of your intuitive abilities? This episode kicks off with some light-hearted tech talk but quickly shifts gears as we delve into the dramatic story of a seven-car pileup involving Taylor's husband, Pat. Both Taylor and Pat had an uncanny premonition about the accident, and as if that wasn't enough, Pat was wrongfully accused of insurance fraud. Through intense moments and spontaneous chaos, we explore the vital role of intuition in steering through life's unpredictable storms.
Have you ever had an unsettling experience with law enforcement? Anoki shares her experience of being pulled over at 3 AM and how it exemplified broader societal insecurities. From minor traffic stops to the tragic story of Sonia Massey, we examine the complex dynamics between citizens and police officers. We discuss how these interactions, whether minor or severe, shape our perceptions and highlight the necessity for proper training in mental healthcare for law enforcement.
We then journey through intriguing intersections of pop culture, spirituality, and nature. From "The Simpsons" eerie predictions to spiritual connections with animals, this episode is rich with varied topics. Join us as we share the beauty of simple human connections, the joy of creative pursuits like making raw milk cheddar cheese, and the grounding power of nature. Through personal stories and thoughtful discussions, we underscore the importance of mindfulness, gratitude, and staying grounded amidst the chaos.
All right well welcome and good morning. Good morning, this is Patty, with Patty Talks Too Much and I'm here with my dear friends Anoki and Taylor and of course we've already been chatting about cool, cool technology like. But we're kind of a little all right, I'll speak for myself. I'm a little jealous about inoki's ipad camera, auto focus thing that's going on over there. That makes her look so dramatic and I just yeah, it's a dramatic close-up anyway, it dramatic close up.
Speaker 1:I didn't even make it, I didn't even set it as an option.
Speaker 3:I mean next time it does it.
Speaker 1:I need you to just be like sometimes. I feel like somebody's watching me, alright you guys have you.
Speaker 3:You know I love chaos, right? You know I love chaos, I live for chaos.
Speaker 2:However, don't say that so you don't live, for I mean like I like it, you handle it. You can in chaos. I do, I do.
Speaker 3:But you don't want it all the time. Well, maybe I don't want it all the time. All right, listen, let me just clarify this. Ordering chaos cannot work without the other right.
Speaker 2:yes, I know you say this all the time sometimes one tip right.
Speaker 3:I've just noticed lately that there is a lot of spontaneous chaos happening in the lives of those around me. Okay, and I don't want to label anything as good or bad does it have anything to?
Speaker 3:do with you, um. So so I'll give you an example. The other day I was driving and it was raining, and I wasn't driving my new car, I was driving the old car and I had this, had a feeling come over me. I will call call it intuition, and my intuition was that hold on, I've lost a headphone here my intuition was that I was going to get in a car accident and so I was driving very carefully to you know whatever I could do to write that right. I didn't want to get in a car accident, obviously, but I could feel that energy so I make it home safe. I'm like good, we're good, we're good. Well, the next morning, pat drove um the new truck to work and he was gonna drive the car that I drove and he thought, you know what it's raining and, unbeknownst to me, he had sensed a car accident. So he got on the truck.
Speaker 1:His GPS tried to get him to get off the highway, but he got back on.
Speaker 2:And he got in a seven-car wreck.
Speaker 1:He got into a seven-car wreck.
Speaker 3:He was hurt, he's fine. He's fine. I mean, you know he got some serious whiplash. The brand new truck is not okay Shit. But obviously all that matters is that he's okay. Nobody got hurt, he wasn't at fault. So our car is going to get fixed.
Speaker 3:But the chaos of the moment was so intense, right, because I had felt it coming, kat had felt it coming. We hadn't told each other that we both had this underlying feeling of dread about a car accident and then he ended up getting in one. Then the cop comes up to him because Pat the way Pat got into the car accident was he saw it coming, so he tried to. As he was getting hit from behind, he tried to turn out of the line. Somebody stopped dead on the highway up ahead so he tried to get out of the line and shoot this way, but he still clipped the car in front of him and the car behind him hit him so hard that it shot him out of the seven cars and way over here. So when the cop showed up up, he accused pat of insurance fraud and said I'll take you to jail for insurance fraud wait a minute because he thought that pat had caused the whole thing.
Speaker 1:No, because he thought that pat just pulled over on the side.
Speaker 3:He was he was pulled over on the side of the road, way out of the accident. He could have said anything and been like, yeah, it was in the accident. I had this damage on my brand new truck. I just need coverage on it.
Speaker 3:You know what I mean but he didn't get shot out of it, but he just got shot out now luckily somebody had evidence, photo evidence alongside that coincided with Pat's, you know yeah right with with where pat's truck was wrecked, yeah, but I'm like this is the third time that that somebody in uh enforcement or or or security has stopped you and tried to pin something on you. I'm like the energy is just wild and and it's not just him, I've noticed it at work too um, it's just, it's a lot. It's a lot going on and it's almost like I can laugh about it. But it's almost like these, these levels of tests. You know there's tears to these tests, and so some of us are just continually getting tested right now and it can feel, it can feel victimy, you know. Yeah, it can feel like why is this happening to me? Me, you know. Yeah, it can feel like why is this happening to me?
Speaker 2:um, and we just have to remember that that the tests come when the student is ready and and that you know there's a purpose to all of it yeah, but you know, I mean I also think like in general, in general, and I mean I don't I don't disagree with that at all, but like there's in general, there's so much more tension. I think that there's more acting out. I think there are more people going off on other people, more erratic driving.
Speaker 2:I mean like people are kind of there are many different levels of people losing their shit, you know and it's expressed in a different way.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's being expressed in a different way. Yeah, it's, it's being expressed in in in so many different ways. And so I think it's kind of you know and and I think it's good that your intuition right now is very, very strong, because I think it'll help you and Pat navigate some. You know, some things that you know some of the cray cray out there. You know, because you kind of want to stay clear of the cray cray and sometimes you can and sometimes you can't.
Speaker 3:Well, sometimes it's your partner and sometimes you have to just. You know that it's not. You know I can be here, but like this is your battle, you know.
Speaker 1:Like I can't fight this fight for you.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think a lot of interactions, you know, with everybody on an individual level, instead of people like expecting the good in other people, you know, like, and then the bad being being like some kind of a shock, people like normalize the bad and are looking for the bad in people and not expecting good in people at all, and then being shocked when they come across something good. And it sucks that it's that way, you know, because it used to be such a shock when somebody would do something, when something bad would happen, when something would go on, you know, and, and now you know, people are like oh, you know, that happened to this person or this, you know, or you know like like pat's interaction with the police officer, you know the police officer I probably experienced that 10 other times before and he did.
Speaker 3:He apologized to pat at the end of it all the way over here, but actually, you know, connected to it he said he had a thing for insurance fraud, and pat was like I have all this proof, where there's all this proof, and so he did end up apologizing and pat did end up obviously not being at fault, but, um, and those are those moments where it's like, am I going to keep my composure?
Speaker 1:yeah, because if I don't, keep my composure.
Speaker 1:Oh, you're screwed, oh yeah you have to like normalize that Like it sucks because you have to expect that that cop is going to try to, you know, find anything that he can, you know, because that's his job. You know, at this point, and the world is more bad than it is good, you know so where. You know not everybody used to. You know get full, you know checks, or you know everything run you know every time that you know get full, you know checks, or you know everything run. You know every time that you know they had an out light, you know how about that elderly?
Speaker 3:woman. I mean the, the, the signs of authority are getting really it's also a sign that I is getting really authoritative, because you know, that's one thing, everybody expects that.
Speaker 2:To shoot somebody outside.
Speaker 3:Yeah, we're all waiting for it, you know, because at this point many of us don't trust law enforcement. When you watch that video with that elderly woman the other day with the boiling pot of water.
Speaker 1:I didn't see it either.
Speaker 1:My kids were very, but I do have to say I got pulled over last week and, and, and you know it was three o'clock in the morning I take my partner to work real, real early. You know. I come back home, I sleep for like another hour or two and then I'm up, but, um, you know, so it's, it's the middle of the night. You know, I take her to work every day in the same way. I take her down there and I drop her off and I'm heading home. I've got night is in the back or whatever, and uh, you know I see a police officer. I'm always doing this, even like, because I sing this little I ain't got no cheap money song everywhere I go and yeah.
Speaker 1:I would cross this bridge and I see the silhouette of this police officer pulled over, so I make sure I get over, you know. So I'm not in the lane right next to him when I pass him and boom, he turns his lights on, pulls right up behind me and I'm and I don't know why, because this hasn't happened to me in a long time my last few interactions with police officers I was I was okay, you know, like, like, but this time like and I didn't have there's nothing wrong with my car, you know nothing. I wasn't speeding, you know. I've got my son with me. I don't have any kind of you know anything at all. I don't drink, you know. So there's no possibility of the day before you know, nothing, you know.
Speaker 1:So he pulled me over and, for whatever reason, my heart rate shot up to like 150 oh, I'm sure, of course I had my, I had my fitbit on, but I but I was okay and he was really nice and he gave me a warning and he didn't do anything, what?
Speaker 2:What was the warning for?
Speaker 1:So both of my tag lights were out and they were and he said you don't have any tag lights. And I was like nothing. He's like no, I guess I hadn't noticed, you know, but we have to slam my trunk for it to close, right. So I think it probably was something to do with banging it closed all the time. You know that just made them short out or whatever, but anyway.
Speaker 3:That is the most bullshit excuse to get pulled over in the first place. I'm sorry.
Speaker 1:I thought for sure, I was like that is a late word.
Speaker 3:I looked at him.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I looked at him and I was like both them are out. And he's like yeah, he's like you don't have anything back there, and I was like okay, I was like no, no, I was like okay, well, I'll get it fixed right away. I'm a clinton tech, so I'll just change the bulbs. Um, you know, hopefully it's just that, but both of them are out. Maybe it's a fuse, you know. Well, he went back to the car and he ran my stuff, you know.
Speaker 1:And then he came back to the car and he was like oh, I'm just gonna give you a verbal warning, you know, go get them fixed, you know, and I was like thank you so much, because in my head I'm still singing my I ain't got no ticket money song, you know, and I'm just thinking, oh my god, it's like three hundred dollars, you know, there's so many things that I need. Yeah, yeah, they're less than three hundred dollars right now. You know that I'm working hard for, and now that puts them even further you know. So so it it it was, you know, I don't know.
Speaker 3:It was a really easy reason to pull you over.
Speaker 1:Well, yeah, and that's kind of that's what happens.
Speaker 2:It was really nice.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean because they, you know I could have been some bad guy you know, and he could have pulled me over for the tag light and then stopped something else really bad from happening. Yeah, you know, because, like you know, that's just what it is, but that's because the world is sacred man yeah, the world is expecting this, this negative thing, to happen, but you don't know why that cop stopped you.
Speaker 3:You don't know what you missed in that five minutes ten minutes that you were pulled over. You know we really have to understand that synchronicity and divine timing play a role every moment of our lives yeah, I mean it could be an accident at the light right up ahead of me you know, if I wasn't over on the side or a deer, you know, could have run out exactly just like what happened to your partner.
Speaker 2:But you know, I mean like driving, driving at three in the morning, I think is like they're all you know. If there are cops out on the street they're.
Speaker 1:There's um automatically suspect of people who are out at that hour, oh yeah I told him, you know, I was taking my partner to work. You know like he. He was like okay, you know he ran my, my information, but my, my florida tag has my bald one address. So he was like, he was like. He was like at first he was a little suspicious of of my florida tag when I told him I lived there, but then he realized he's like oh, because I have a residence at both places so I can do that.
Speaker 2:But I don't have to pay that adverdum or whatever tax that they have here in Georgia only where you pay the full sales tax for your vehicle at purchase price, not your purchase price, but at purchase price, not Kelly Blue Book not kelly blue book.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah, I had to. I had to do that when I registered. But yeah, and I think it's it's true. I mean it's the synchronicity and it's it's just kind of like keeping our heads on straight, um, and keeping ourselves centered during this during this time, because everybody is on edge, everybody's on edge.
Speaker 3:Law enforcement is on edge.
Speaker 2:Well, I think everybody is on edge.
Speaker 1:So, they're a part of it. Yeah, they're a part of everybody, you know. My uncle has family to go home to my uncle had family to go home to. My cousin had family to go home to.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, I mean, I have you know.
Speaker 1:My uncle used to do Georgia Avenue in Palm Beach. That was his beat for like 20 years, yeah, and so you know, know, so he expects a lot of negative things in life, you know. But he's seen a lot of negative things and I think that's the point of it. You know, like TV, everything, all of it. You know, we went from you know Beverly Hillbillies and you know Little House on the Prairie to you know Beverly Hillbillies and you know Little House on the Prairie to you know, this is what we're going to talk about and do now.
Speaker 2:You know yeah.
Speaker 3:So this little old lady the other day called the cops because she thought there was somebody in her apartment. The cops show up, they enter her dwelling. She's cooking a pot of boiling water on the stove and the cop says something along the lines of move your fucking hands off the pot or I'm going to shoot you in the fucking face. Okay, this woman is like in her 80s. Okay, little black lady, she's cooking on the stove.
Speaker 3:It turns out the woman is um paranoid, schizophrenic. So she called for help because she felt like somebody was around her or in her place, right. So when she, when the cop says that to her, she puts her hands up with the two potholders in her hands and she says I rebuke you in the name of Jesus. And she just sinks down with the two potholders in her hands and crouches in the corner. And he came around the corner and he shot her in the fucking hand. Are you kidding me? No, warning, no, just fucking killed her. Four shots, three or four shots. And they called his partner, came around the corner to get you know, to call for an ambulance, and he said it's a fucking headshot, dude, long of the short, this particular where was this, by the way?
Speaker 2:what state was this? I don't remember you don't know where in the country?
Speaker 3:no, it wasn't in the country I'm sure, if I know, wait a minute.
Speaker 2:What do you mean? It wasn't.
Speaker 3:It wasn't in the united states, oh, no, yes, I thought you meant like the country.
Speaker 2:No, no, I mean the state, what?
Speaker 3:state was it in? I'm not sure what state it was, but it was definitely in our country.
Speaker 1:I'm sorry.
Speaker 3:It's not in the country.
Speaker 1:It's not in the country. What the fuck was that?
Speaker 2:Was that so? But what did you mean? It seemed like it was an urban setting, that this took place Like in a city. You know, I'm not quite sure it was.
Speaker 3:It was an apartment. So I think, yeah, maybe I think so, but long of the short this particular officer had had like four. He had been to four different police departments in the matter of five years due to all of his, uh, crass decision making. Yeah, so he had just been passed along he had just been passed along and two duis to boot. So these are the people that are our authoritators. You know, like it's just, it's really hard. Well, he was a psycho.
Speaker 2:He was a psycho who shouldn't have been a police officer.
Speaker 1:But I mean, like I wouldn't, I don't like to know it was in Illinois. Chicago, her name. Her name was Sonia Massey Sonia, yeah, sonia Massey. The deputy involved was Deputy Sean Grayson and he was charged with murder after shooting her three times in the head. She was not a little old lady, though. She was 36 years old. 36 years old is what it says.
Speaker 3:Oh, she had her two kids there, that's right. So she wasn't an old lady. She looks very elderly in the video so she must have really been hunched over, because what I saw she looked elderly. So I'm sorry about the wrong information.
Speaker 1:No, no, no, no, there were two children too. Yeah, in the video two deputies are seen in the intense encounter. It doesn't say that she called, but oh yeah, sonia Massey called the emergency line to report a potential prowler at her residence in Springfield, illinois.
Speaker 2:Oh.
Speaker 1:Springfield, illinois, mm-hmm.
Speaker 2:Oh.
Speaker 3:I have another random thing to share.
Speaker 2:Hold on just before we move on to that. So the thing is is like yeah, there are psychos, you know who should never, who should not have had, not have a badge should not be ever right, there are psychos like that.
Speaker 2:But I also have nephews, all all you know. I'm all but one of my nephews as a police officer and these are, these are upstanding, they're in the military, they're upstanding kids who care a lot about their community and would never in a million years treat someone like that. And so I just think like we can make you know, like I always hesitate about making blanket statements about law enforcement, because there are some really really good, really good, and they want to do the right thing by the people.
Speaker 2:They want to do the right thing by the community. You know they've got their own families, they've got babies on the way. These are, you know, these are guys who you know they've got their own families, they've got babies on the way. These are, you know, these are guys who you know they love life and they love children and they protect women and they want to do the right thing in the community and they would never, ever, ever do something like that.
Speaker 2:And I think, unfortunately, psychos like that make, you know, make it hard for all of them, because you know, I don't think that we can, at this point in our, at this point, eliminate all police because, you know, because something, we really need them sometimes. You know, sometimes there's some shit going down and we need to call if they were properly trained's not bad.
Speaker 3:If they were properly trained in healthcare, if they were properly trained in mental healthcare.
Speaker 2:These types of instances wouldn't be happening as much. You know they're doing that with teachers.
Speaker 1:They have a right along psychologist they should? There's so much so much there.
Speaker 3:and it's a team, and the reason I brought this up is is to give you a variation of of what a cop that realized he was wrong and had the ability to apologize over over assumptions with Pat she. Cops that don't make assumptions, they just assume that their immediate trigger response is correct.
Speaker 2:That was psycho, though there's a big variation. He's a psycho cop.
Speaker 3:As far as authority goes, there is a spectrum.
Speaker 1:Yeah, okay, sure, as you know, as far as authority goes, there is a spectrum right yeah okay, sure, that's like. I think that it was a. You know, it's really important, you know to say that just last week with the georgia state patrol officer. I had a positive interaction. He was nice, he was respectful, I was. I was totally panicked, for no reason, you know like the, the. I Was the weird one in that situation, you know, like and, and I came home it. Well, it wasn't like he wasn't looking, he pulled you.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he was so nice. You know, you know yeah but I let myself Get like that, you know, and then try to not you know. You know, yeah, but I let myself get like that. You know and I try to not you know assume the worst of any situation you know.
Speaker 1:But but you know, there's still moments where where I do too, you know and I'm glad that that he wasn't a bad guy, that he was a good guy, that he was a good police officer, that he did his job. He checked out my stuff. I did have something wrong with my car you know like it was three o'clock in the morning, you know, but, but, but I felt like I have something to work on there with that and then I needed to acknowledge the fact that it was a good interaction with a police officer just doing his job, you know.
Speaker 1:And so there are really good police officers out there that do just that what they're there to do, to protect, to serve, to check anything that might be suspicious. You know, like my car's got stickers all over it it's not the best condition, you know. I've got tinted windows Like it's all black. Like you know it's three o'clock in the morning, like there was reason, you know, for him to stop me.
Speaker 2:Yeah, to wonder what was going on.
Speaker 1:For me to panic, because I could have fed some kind of panic in him too. You know like our emotions spread to the people around us, you know, like, which is why you know a lot of the times people like they keep to themselves because there's a lot going on in the world, you know and no matter what, when you're out and you're interacting, you're experiencing it. You're experiencing through your friends. You're experiencing just looking at.
Speaker 3:I've never not been able to be pulled over by the police without experiencing it like I wasn't white. Now let me, let me. Let me stand correct when I say this. I am fully aware of white privilege and what it does for me when I get pulled over by the police. I am fully aware. However, I still don't feel like a white person. When I get pulled over, I immediately panic, I immediately my heart rate shoots through the roof, I out of my ignition and I put them on my dashboard.
Speaker 2:My car is turned off my music is turned off.
Speaker 3:I do not play about getting pulled over by the police. It makes me very nervous, but that is because every time I was pulled over as an adolescent I was treated a specific way. It was because I hung out on Washington and Latona and when I got pulled over it was why the fuck are you in this neighborhood and who do you know that's Black? That's how I was raised, so I immediately get pulled over and feel some type of way because as an adolescent I was never treated by the police properly. I was beat up by the police.
Speaker 3:The Lake Worth Police Department was. So what's the word? I'm looking for corrupt it wasn't like it was so corrupt that when they got me finally got me in the lake worth police department no adult present they kept me in that room for seven hours questioning me about everybody I knew in Lake Worth and and the guys, what, what would, this person was doing and who they ran with and what questions that I didn't even know the answers to and they would not let me go um but they were all corrupt back then in the early 2000s, and so that was what I learned of cops, and so it's, you know, in.
Speaker 1:Lantana. It was a really little town, and so it wasn't as corrupt as corrupt, you know yeah, but they were still dicks. That worked for Lantana too yeah, but but for the most part and I get that we were hoodlum kids, I get that and you weren't, you know, then they were all right, you know, and they'd just talk to you or tell you to go home, you know, or whatever like, for the most part, they would tell you to go home, but I have also experienced.
Speaker 1:You know was was stupid, but whatever, so though Broward was was rough. Any interactions with Broward, you know everybody's a criminal to Broward.
Speaker 2:You know, it doesn't matter who you are, but they they're a big city.
Speaker 1:You know, fort Lauderdale was like that, yeah and and Hollywood.
Speaker 3:Wilk Manors was a little police department.
Speaker 1:They all kind of knew each other. They were all kind of cool. Margate was a little police department, they were cool. Coral Springs wanted to be Broward, so bad.
Speaker 3:Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1:Coral Springs was like militarized in 90s.
Speaker 3:Before I forget, I want to ask you guys if you've seen this. I watched a video the other day and it was the first time that I've actually been taken aback by the creator of the simpsons. Now he's done some crazy shit, oh and everybody thinks he's a time traveler.
Speaker 2:Right predictive, the predictive programming that stuff.
Speaker 3:Did you see the video I sent you? Patty, you sent me a video I sent you a video. I think it was on facebook, so check this out oh, okay, I know, this is different than any other thing that matt groney has done.
Speaker 3:Usually what matt groney does, he portrays something that happens in the future. Right, right, right, okay, right down to lisa being kamala. Like everything that happens in the simpsons is a depiction of a future event coming right, but not this one. This is Marge herself. Recently, I think within the last year, they have uncovered this sarcophagus with this painting.
Speaker 3:The painting is an Egyptian, yellow Egyptian woman in a chartreuse green dress with a giant blue high top spade or one of these pieces that they wore in Egyptian, but it's the same color blue that Mars had To hide their cone heads or to hide their long skull, yeah, to hide whatever the long skull. So this depiction, this piece of art on this sarcophagus is identical to marge simpson. So now they're like how would matt groney have this just got uncovered, the simpsons? They've been out for you know decades. Like how would he have? Now we're going to the past, right. Well, what?
Speaker 2:but it was still a present day discovery. So it was a present day discovery of this thing in the sarcophagus which looks like marge simpson. So it is a very, very old thing, but it's a recent discovery. So it's something that happens now. Well, something that that happens in present day, you know, like the event of finding it is present day.
Speaker 1:But it's a really really old but.
Speaker 2:Matt Groney's already had Margaret Simpson painted right, Right, right so I mean, it's still the same, as you know, the depictions of all of the things in the future. This just so happens to be an event where something ancient is discovered. I think that's, you know, that's just kind of, that's kind of interesting. So they're still using, I think, the same, whatever it is, whatever technology is being used by the Simpsons, all kinds of the Sims, the people who put together the Simpsons there are all kinds of theories about it um, they are, were able to kind of um, see this event in the future where this thing was discovered, and so you know so march.
Speaker 1:I used to be, I used to be so embarrassed about the simpsons as a kid and I was like teased and I had like trauma because I had the same name as the Simpsons. But I loved them, I always loved. I loved every episode.
Speaker 2:I didn't think about that, talked about such real stuff.
Speaker 1:I mean it was really bad.
Speaker 3:I was really really picked on my last name rhymed with fucker, so I don't feel back.
Speaker 2:Well, actually, when when I would tell people that I was from springfield, they would automatically assume that it was assume yeah, they were so, because springfield wait is that where the simpsons is? Or is that, yeah, yeah that's where the simpsons are right, so people would assume that it was the same springfield. But that's interesting. I grew up in a town, well there's five springfields there is in the country.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and and it's, and it's a consistent battle with all of them, on which one is yeah, my friend lives in springfield missouri, yeah, yeah, and, and you know what's really funny is matt groening kind of ties the architecture and the landscape of all five of them into the show.
Speaker 2:So you don't really know you gotta guess yeah and he won't say exactly what it is Now. Have you, enoki? Have you ever looked into this is something maybe I did at one time and forgot but have you looked into this person who these cities were named for?
Speaker 1:no.
Speaker 3:Springfield, because all of these are we forget that all of these names, Springfield, but I don't know who they were actually named for I think all of them were named for the same person.
Speaker 1:Simpsons do make a very big deal about the founder of Springfield and there are several episodes about how he was a really corrupt guy, because everybody honored him or whatever, and then they stumbled across. You know some real shit from him.
Speaker 3:I can't remember what it was. I think it would be worth looking into the actual person that's like in the early seasons, the early seasons of Jedediah Springfield.
Speaker 1:But he is brought up and he's got a big statue and it is a big centerpiece of the town in all of their things.
Speaker 2:Does he wear a raccoon hat in the statue? Yeah, he wears a raccoon hat.
Speaker 3:Does he wear a raccoon hat?
Speaker 2:Jedediah.
Speaker 1:Springfield has a raccoon hat.
Speaker 1:He looks like Daniel Boone and he's got a shotgun in his hand and there's some critters on his little statue and I mean I'm a big fan. Like I said, I had a lot of trauma about it, but it made me look at it and it made me sink into it. And then, you know now, like you know because because I would watch it, you know pretty, pretty much like live in it, you know, and so so I would see the synchronicities and things back when, before it became a big deal, you know, before people were talking about I'm like oh, but before everything was a conspiracy.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I was like oh, but isn't that like this? You know, I was probably like one of those little voices. They are feeding the conspiracies, because that's I think, I do that, I think I do that, you know, but I think about things you know and it's just a thought. You know, I don't need to get all crazy about it, you know, but but I have that thought and I'm prepared for it if it happens. But it's just a thought.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and the Simpsons, they haven't been 100% but it's been. A lot of that stuff has really come true.
Speaker 3:Well, they wouldn't be able to give 100%, because that would be way too.
Speaker 2:That would be yeah, when you look at.
Speaker 1:Edgar Cayce, you look at all these profit people. You look at all these profit people and it's not the same, because there's no way to iterate things that don't exist yet sometimes.
Speaker 2:It's not based on probability. Things are always changing. There are a lot of people.
Speaker 1:It's like saying Notre Dame is saying these giant metal birds, he doesn't know what a fucking airplane is. That makes a lot of sense, the giant metal bird yeah, you know, yeah, it's the same thing as it's yeah okay, what did the mayans say?
Speaker 2:the mayans said that lines would cover.
Speaker 3:Yeah, right, okay, so are we talking about power lines? Are we talking about chemtrails? What lines are we talking about? Because there's plenty of them to choose from. The metal birds are it's, it's there, it's it they just didn't have words for it yet yeah, you know.
Speaker 1:And the same thing with mac roney. You know, mac roney doesn't know what he's saying, you know.
Speaker 3:But he's saying what comes to him you know well, the video I watched was essentially saying that mac roney was reincarnated and that all of these you know celebrities are reincarnated and they just keep reincarnating in places of power, um, in every lifetime, and so they have this ability to like, show us glimpses of how they know um and so I mean, it was it was a little out there.
Speaker 1:It was a little aloof but history repeats itself. The past can show you the future you know.
Speaker 3:Well, that was the whole point.
Speaker 1:And you know, I also say people say oh, celebrities are the ones that are reincarnated. We're all, but we're all reincarnated multiple times.
Speaker 3:My cousin.
Speaker 1:My cousin was a was a hawk in one life, like it took. It took like a whole session and a half just to figure out what she was in that session.
Speaker 3:You know that's so funny. You say that because every time I've ever read brian weiss I started reading brian weiss at 12 years old and I always said to myself you know, it's amazing the way that we can collaborate these past life stories and and, and be able to actually know such intricate details that we can put a time stamp on it. But oh, it gives me goosebumps. But what about our lifetimes as animals? And I don't know?
Speaker 3:I think I spoke on this briefly recently but it was me talking to nani and realizing the hawaiian, the hawaiian version of, of, you know, integrating into reincarnation. Before christianity hit those islands, you didn't reincarnate into a human, you reincarnated into the animal that you connected with in your lifetime that tattoo of moana's grandmother with the stingray on it, and then she became a stingray. That was that's how the hawaiians, that that was their belief system. But I always found that to be very interesting, considering all of the research I had done on reincarnation never included reincarnating into animals. But it's very clearly a thing, but our memory doesn't hold it the same right, mm-hmm.
Speaker 1:Mm-hmm. See, I think that I could definitely connect to animals when I was younger, and sometimes connecting to animals was what would take me astral out of whatever I was in. Yeah, yeah, that would be able to allow me to astral travel and I would run like I was an animal.
Speaker 1:Yes, you could connect to them and I would connect with them because I was animalistic in a sense. I was running to run, I was breathing it in, I was feeling everything around me, you know, while I did it, you know, and then I never stopped. But when I would stop I would just absorb so much, you know and then. I just run with that. You know that I just, I didn't, I didn't. I feel like being able, you, you know, connecting with all of the animals and thinking of all the animals and then trying to connect this, like human body, to those animal natures and stuff.
Speaker 1:You know, like I, growing up I loved, like the jungle book, you know. So I would jump around on trees, you know, and I would I, I would. I climbed the telephone poles in my trees, you know, and I would, I would, I'd climb the telephone poles in my neighborhood, you know, and all the other kids would be like what you know? And I'd be like, look, it's just you know.
Speaker 1:Putting one hand over the other you know, and having your body out like the sea, you know. But I'd watch things and I'd think of things, you know, and I'd feel those things when I would.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's very to see, I think, animal consciousness and I just find it really interesting. It's like utilizing. So if, when you connect with, like, the consciousness of an animal, it's very much about using the senses and it's unmitigated by language, like there's so much about our language that limits our experience.
Speaker 2:So we use this language and everything has to have a word for it and everything. And the way that we communicate is with language. But that's not how animals communicate, Matter of fact, they're more telepathic, you know. So these animal communicators, for instance, which I really do believe in, they're communicating telepathically. So somehow they've tapped into this capacity to communicate telepathically. And, Taylor, I think some of those experiences that you've shared with me when you talked about like connecting with the hawk in your backyard and the consciousness of the hawk and these different animals, I think it was all very telepathic and there was no human language associated.
Speaker 3:So that was kind of no that I, literally I asked this hawk to drop a feather. I was moving and this hawk, yeah, a pet to me. I named him chicken and he was my baby and he would come every day and hang out with my chicken.
Speaker 3:And then I knew we were moving and I really just enjoyed him so much and I was like I'm gonna miss you. I'm just thinking this, I'm not saying this out loud, I'm looking at him through a window and I think, god, if you could just leave me one feather so that I could always have something to remember you by. And if no sooner did I think that thought he ruffled his feathers and shook. And if no sooner did I think that thought he ruffled his feathers and shook and dropped one singular wing feather and I watched it go like this into my yard off the power line and I was like oh my gosh, Thank you.
Speaker 3:Thank you so much, but yeah, I mean, and that's why, like you know, like spiritual, teachers and everything.
Speaker 2:Believing is magic. Well, I'm telling you, yes, yes, and I was going to say that that's why a lot of spiritual teachers will say you know, look, if you want to be grounded, if you want to be centered, if you want to connect more, get out in nature, get around animals, so nature, animals, et cetera, because that's where we can go beyond the mind, that's where we can go beyond language and connect, you know, to our higher selves and to kind of higher consciousness, without our language interfering, you know, in our thoughts, you know in our intellect interfering with, um, that kind of, that kind of connection. So being around animals, you just see how, you know, we are like I need to um, you know I'm in the present now and it's all about the now and it's the present now and we do all these meditations and everything. Then you look at your pet.
Speaker 1:Your pet is always in the now and it's like they're not meditating. Yeah, just as you realize, like, oh, we all have these things that we do, you know, that are our purpose in life. Know that it's not as complex as we're making it out to be.
Speaker 3:We're just a part of it too, you ever look at somebody and know their animal, like their, their centered animal, like you ever just like. You're walking on the street and you're like they're a fucking hawk, they're a fucking wolf, that's a fucking. You ever do that Like you can just see.
Speaker 1:That looks like a praying mantis.
Speaker 3:Yes, I'm like dude, that guy is a straight up lombat, like unbelievable, but people don't realize like they're like oh well, my spirit animal, and you know we've gotten so caught up in. You know this and you know we've gotten so caught up in, you know this. You know this place where we're taking and pulling from other cultures and whatnot, and it all becomes just so superficial and it all becomes just so superficial.
Speaker 3:The be-all, end-all is that anciently, many cultures knew about our connection to the animal kingdom, and even in Neanderthal times you had to pick a spirit animal. Now, back in Neanderthal times, a woman's spirit animal had to be weaker than a man, or they believed that the man wouldn't be able to procreate With a man's spirit animal. Had to be stronger in order for his spirit to overcome hers, for her to hold a baby. That's what Neanderthals believed. So all the way from that time, we've been pulling the strength of these animals into our beings and calling them into our soul. So as much of a cultural appropriation it is to say the term spirit animal, look past that with me and and understand that our connection to animals is ancestral. Yeah, so no matter, no matter where, no matter where you are in the world, no matter where you are whatever culture you're in, there's always.
Speaker 3:I think that's why I was so shell shocked being in California because there were animals I had never, ever encountered in the wild, right, um, but yeah, there is a way to connect to, to this deeper inner, knowing that we are attached to specific animals, some more than others, and and individually, um. What animal connects to you and how can you research or connect with that animal, um knowing more about it, or, or or you know what it stands for spiritually, what it means and how you can?
Speaker 2:work that magic and medicine into your life. Yeah, you can do that with, with, with, all animals. It's like that's what I love about that you know the language of many of the Native Americans who say my relations, my many of the Native Americans who say my relations my relations with the animal kingdom. I mean, I'm just saying, like you, can we have relations with all you know, if we can?
Speaker 1:kind of it evolves, it evolves and it's also a little circumstantial well, we've evolved away from it, though animals that you carry, but it's, you know, for some people know, like I can't I cannot pick one animal Exactly that I connect to. You know more. Every time I've thought that that was the animal, that was the animal of that time. You know for me. You know because later on another animal will come into my life and be more present and more there and carry more energy or save me from more things. You know that that I feel like all of them are important to me, you know, and that there's not one that I would put above any other, because it's all the same, it's all in the moment yeah.
Speaker 1:There are specifics that are supposed to be.
Speaker 1:you know, yeah, I feel like, the things that I need, the medicines that I need, the people, you know, the people, the animals, they all come to me when, when I need them or they need me. You know, like, because it's not just what we take from nature, you know, we also give nature, you know, things back, and sometimes just letting nature be nature in our space, you know, and sharing that space with nature is a gift to nature too. You know, absolutely Like, but we're all a part of the same thing. You know, we're all here and a part of it, and we're all connected.
Speaker 1:we're all here and I'm part of it and we're all connected, and and it just depends on on, you know what connections you recognize in that moment you know, but but you know that's why some, some people you know it's so hard for them to understand you know that there are people that need to relocate bugs and people that want to step on them, you know, yeah that was wayne dyer who got me to never kill a bug again he said yeah, like he was dying and his daughter came into his apartment in in hawaii and he said to his daughter I will not live in a bug cemetery, Do not kill a bug in my dwelling.
Speaker 3:And I just thought how funny is that you know, like, this is not a cemetery for my six-legged friends. I just thought that that was so thoughtful. But yeah, and traditional indigenous beliefs in America were that we had seven or nine.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and they can change too.
Speaker 3:And they don't have to. Yeah, but there is one that sits with you, but it doesn't mean that it's always the same or that you can't connect.
Speaker 1:I mean, that's exactly what you're saying. I feel like it's the one that more people see in you. You know that one okay that makes sense. That's the one that is more recognizable all the other ones, you know, are medicines that you're carrying with you at the time in your life. You know, I mean, and it's very it's very much.
Speaker 2:I mean, it's like everything. It's like there are people who come in and out of your life. There are encounters that you have that are, you know that, that are impactful, you know between with humans that you know happen at this one, that happened at this moment, and then you know, and then it's different as as you move on, and I think interactions that happen with humans, just like animals.
Speaker 3:Patty right, exactly Like that stranger that you walk past and you make eye contact with and you don't understand why it was so powerful in that moment. But it was a past life connection and you don't even understand it in this lifetime, but all you had to do was was make that eye contact, and that was all that was needed between those two souls like you just never know, and so it's just better to be open to those experiences.
Speaker 1:they're all around us positivity, then seek for negativity absolutely now, before we pull a card.
Speaker 2:Can I just share something really, really special with you guys, because I'm kind of excited about it yeah, so you know how I always have to have something kind of creative going on in my life and if it involves we know if it involves food even better. All right, I'm there so, and because I've been on this health, I've been on this health journey right. I've been exploring all of these different kind of alternative, holistic health kinds of things. I've been discovering the magic and the importance of raw milk, and so I've decided that I'm going to be making raw milk products, and so I am.
Speaker 2:Now. I'm just holding it up for you guys to see. I am now officially a cheese, I'm a cheese maker.
Speaker 2:So it's my first one, it's my first I know I'm going to give you a piece, but we have to wait because it needs about three months. So you know we can't do it, but I'd like to make some. This is cheddar, so I love cheddar. So I'm going to be making raw milk cheddar and I'm also exploring other cheeses. I got a book, I'm watching videos and I have a little farm. She said raw milk. I said where's your cheesecloth? The reason why I decided to do it this way I do have cheesecloth is that one of the women that I looked at she said this is how I age my cheese. It's just, it's kind of foolproof. So you do vacuum, vacuum seal and you put it in the refrigerator and it might take a little bit longer but it's. It's like safer and there's less risk for stuff to grow on it and stuff like that.
Speaker 2:I was like yeah, that sounds, that sounds right, so I have, I have a drawer in my refrigerator that I want to fill with all of these, these little cheese wheels, and maybe I'll experiment with like one with jalapeno and yeah, bacon cheddar bacon, jalapeno cheddar. Yeah, yeah, exactly, Exactly. So I'm going to have a lot of fun with that and I'll share that. Yep, so I'm going to make maybe some ricotta. You know, maybe my own yogurt. I'd love to you know, my own ice cream at some point.
Speaker 3:You know, especially if I'm going to have company. You know, if a no keys coming over, I might want to somewhere. If you come over to tell me when an OK.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so anyway, let's go on. We're going to pull a card now and this is for you know what, what might inspire us the most as we move into the you know, the weeks ahead, and these are.
Speaker 3:Are these the same cards as you had? These are the archetypes again. Yeah, I pulled these again because I did my own reading yesterday and it was so, oh, it was, um, I'll have to do a reading for both of you. Um, from the, from the, the reading that I did. It's called um, just bear with me. The reading that I did. It's called, just bear with me, the reading that I did yesterday. I've never done before and it was so whole, fully encompassing and everything I needed. It's called the Axis Mundi, okay, and so it essentially looks like this Okay.
Speaker 3:And it gives you your underworld, your past, your heaven, your future and yourself. It was the most beautiful five car spread I've ever done. It was really everything I needed, everything I needed. So, anoki, tell me when to stop, when, when?
Speaker 2:oh, you already said when, sorry, and here yeah yeah yeah, yeah, that's this one, yeah, that's the one we think.
Speaker 3:Anyway, I don't know this fell out, so we're gonna. We've pulled, one pulled itself.
Speaker 2:So Inoki, which one pulled itself by the way.
Speaker 3:The kiss is what Inoki called Okay. And then the pilgrim pulled itself.
Speaker 1:Is the pilgrim upside down?
Speaker 2:I don't know if it can be upside down, if it's round.
Speaker 3:So, these go like if they're turned a certain way, but the pilgrim is a really it's more of an abstract card. Yeah, so you've got a mountain with an eye.
Speaker 1:Eye from the dollar and then some sort of shield Bondage, bondage over a shield. Yeah, okay, okay.
Speaker 3:So the kiss is a tool, a tool, a tool All the things that we use every day, that are tools.
Speaker 3:It's love. Love is such a great tool, but the kiss, the kiss can be many things. The kiss, the touch, the chemistry, the sex. Before first kiss, the air is electrified, each breath is alive with the possibility and magic. What will their lips be like? Their tongue? Do they want me and return? The archetypal energy of the kiss is a heightened sensation of merging with others, of letting in what moments ago was separate to become one. It is risky but beautiful business. These moments forever change us as we move past the solidarity self towards union and acceptance. This card suggests true intimacy is around the corner, which requires bravery and surrender. When the kiss takes a non-human form, it may be experienced as touching the sacred, hearing a whisper or being graced by the divine being. So think about a kiss from the universe, yeah, or a kiss between animals when you're interacting in yes
Speaker 3:you will recognize, and an awakening of your heart. So it's very much the same thing because you feel that same awakening in your heart. Intimacy is multi-layered and requires reflection, revisit what you consider to be sensual, taboo, acceptable or shameful, and write down the story of your first kiss, what was changed in that moment. And then I'm just going to hit up the pilgrim real quick to see if there's that's beautiful, anoki some information about the pilgrim in here for us, because the pilgrim is the traveler, is the apprentice, is the one who. The pilgrim is the gypsy.
Speaker 1:Well, yeah, but also the experiences you have along the way and look for places of beauty and settling yeah go down and have your kiss pilgrims are associated with spiritual journeys.
Speaker 2:Like people make pilgrimages to deepen whatever faith they follow make sure you can follow coelho yeah, absolutely, you know um. So I I was really um intrigued by the pilgrim card because I feel like we're all right there, yeah. Yeah, and in a way we're all kind of dealing with this certain moment in our journey which is which is one of the you know.
Speaker 2:maybe you were talking about tests before, yes, and it's kind of like. This does seem like a testing moment or a testing place along the journey of our pilgrimages. Anyway, those are my thoughts, thoughts, but what does it say for your sats?
Speaker 3:spiritual attainment test. Wow, just figure that out off the top of my head, guys, sorry. The wanderer, the traveler, the apprentice. For the pilgrim, an outward journey is always an inward journey. This archetypal wanderer seeks wisdom, experience and meaning in the farthest reaches of the globe and the deepest regions of the spirit. Others will wonder when the pilgrim will settle down and claim a more conventional life, but the pilgrim knows that the heart belongs in motion. Where there is motion, there is motion. There is freedom, expansion and growth.
Speaker 3:Responsibilities, social conventions and logistics lull us to sleep and soon the pilgrim becomes veiled in the slumber of the day. Today. Yet when this archetype awakens, it rallies our senses of adventure and leads us out the door towards a new reality. With the pilgrim at your side, you will never lack courage. Nor do you need every amenity. Travel, light, travel. Soon. Your spirit needs it. Even in the stillness of meditation, the pilgrim feels the movement of the heart towards what it loves. We all have a deep longing to answer the call to get unstuck. What are the obstacles between you and the door?
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Get out there and get some medicine. Yeah, absolutely, find some animals. Go find some animals.
Speaker 2:Go connect to nature.
Speaker 2:You know, unplug from all of the stuff flying at us that's making people so cray cray and get out there. Get out there in nature, Get out there around animals and tune into your heart. You know, I think that's what it's saying. It's like when was the last time we tuned into our heart? Let's get out of our heads. Listen with your heart. I think that's what it's saying. When was the last time we tuned into our heart? Let's get out of our heads. Listen with your heart. Let's get the heck out of our heads.
Speaker 3:My heart is crazy, you guys. I don't know if I trust her. You have a chaotic heart. She be wilding. I'm like girl, are you sure?
Speaker 2:Are you sure, girl? Are you really sure? Well, you know, it's always a lesson in that too. Well, that's awesome. So we've got. We've got the kiss. You know, um, looking for many different levels of intimacy and touch, being touched in many different ways, you know, maybe being touched by nature, being touched by the animals around us, and seeing the divine in all of that and, you know, following our heart, you know it's, it's really, I think, right now, all of humanity is for. For us, it's like, like it's a pilgrimage of the heart. It's like moving from the head to the heart may be the most challenging pilgrimage for all of us, and I think we're we're in the midst of it.
Speaker 3:Honestly, that's poetic justice buddy oh well, there you go.
Speaker 2:I'm just cheesy like that, get it.
Speaker 3:Oh my.
Speaker 1:God.
Speaker 3:She's the cheesiest.
Speaker 2:I'm cheesy like that. Anyway, this has been so much fun. I am going to make some mozzarella and provolone. They're a little more challenging, but I'm going to and I'll show you when I do and then okay. So when are we doing?
Speaker 3:an in person. An in person podcast with all three of us eating cheese and you're living right now.
Speaker 1:I'm feeling a pilgrimage to Patty's and okay, you know, I'm saying well if we're gonna have a cheese party, how you already said, is three months.
Speaker 2:I'm sorry okay, you know I want to. I want to make sure that the the cheddar is aged. I want to make sure I have enough.
Speaker 1:Like to know I wanted to be, I wanted to be good.
Speaker 2:But we could, just I want to have a whole cheese spread meaning look, you guys can. We can do this anytime you want and I'll have food for you and if it includes, cheese, that's awesome but whatever, so we'll figure it out, it's definitely going to be.
Speaker 3:but let's have Patty as a friend is like one of she's one of my, my jewels that I hold onto so dearly. Like having her as a friend is so precious, but having her feed you.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and it's a you know, and I gotta tell you it's a joy for me. Talk about following your heart, talk about being in your heart and doing something, because you know, like, when you're really in your heart, whatever it is you're doing, it's going to give you joy and chances are, it's going to give other people joy. So I do know that when I cook, preparing food and feeding people, it's something that's definitely in in my heart. I am totally in my heart when I'm doing it and that's why, you know, that's why it's such a joyful experience for for all of us, and I think the energetics of that, yeah, good, good.
Speaker 3:The way that Patty served food and all of the energy that she put in those and then to then be the person serving it out to the world and watching the joy spread like some contagion Fascinating, yeah. But you know, we all can do that. I mean, we all do that in our own way.
Speaker 2:Like Taylor, you do it and Noki, you do it, you know, we all do it. I mean we all do that in our own way, Like Taylor, you do it, and Noki you do it, you know, we all do it. I mean food happens to be one of my, my, my mediums, you know, along with teaching. But a Noki, one of your mediums is, is music, obviously, and other ways that you, you reach people and spread the love and the joy. And Taylor, you too, I mean like you know what I mean, Like we all have our ways of doing that. And I think I think at this point, just going back to the cards, at this point, it's really about all of us discovering and really embracing the ways that we can be heart centered in all of the things that we do throughout the day. And if we can do that, then think about the ways that we touch people in our circle in a way that radiates out right.
Speaker 2:So that's really I mean honestly. I think that talk about focusing on the positive rather than the negative and I think people are really excuse the metaphor, but people are really hungry for those kinds of connections.
Speaker 3:She wasn't even trying to be cheesy that time I wasn't even trying to be cheesy.
Speaker 2:I wasn't trying to help herself. I'm just naturally cheesy. Oh, I'm gonna have a lot of fun with this being cheesy, I think.
Speaker 3:I can't wait to hear the name she comes up with for this. It's gonna be golden.
Speaker 1:I got the cheese.
Speaker 2:Cheese. I got the cheese. Anyway, you guys, I love you guys so much. I hope you have a great week and I hope everybody out there has a great week. Think about the pilgrim, think about the kiss and ways you can incorporate it. Get out in nature, connect with animals, whether they're your friends or the birds on your, in the, in your backyard or whatever it is.
Speaker 3:We're not asking you to go for a six-mile hike into the wilderness. You can literally sit on your front porch.
Speaker 1:You can literally just Open your door.
Speaker 3:Open your door. Yeah, yeah, just open your door and listen to the birds. It doesn't have to be some. You know Grass, just go touch grass, tap in touch grass and tap in.
Speaker 2:I love you guys big love, big love to all of you. See you next week. Love ya, thank you.