Patti Talks Too Much
Hi. I'm Patti and it's been said - many times - that I talk too much. I'm a teacher, author, nature lover and for ten years I owned a coffeehouse cafe where my faith in the goodness of humans was restored every day. This podcast highlights the awesomeness of humanity - er...outside the warmongers, globalists, tyrants and politicians in general. You know, the rest of us weird, quirky and sometimes hilarious humans.
We'll talk woo, probe mysteries and leave you thinking about something more interesting or entertaining or uplifting than your grocery list, or boss or that oil change your car needs.
I talk too much because I can't help my Gemini moon and Leo Rising nature. I do a podcast because it's cheaper, funnier and more productive than therapy.
Patti Talks Too Much
Healing the Void: Why Gay Youth Are Vulnerable to Radicalization
Hello again, this is Patti with. Patti Talks Too Much, and today I'm going to talk about why I think gay youth are so vulnerable to being radicalized. How would I know it happened to me. So most people would agree that we are in a pretty dangerous place in our country, given the recent events that have happened. So the public murder of char Kirk, a devout Christian, by what appears to be a person who is in a relationship with a trans person. So again, something else that is connected to the trans community and bringing light to and alarm to many people about how radicalized this community is. Now I've been thinking a lot about this and so I wanted to just give my perspective, because I personally experienced being radicalized when I was young and I wanted to kind of talk about that to maybe give you a little perspective. And then I basically have an urgent appeal to you about this, because I do think that there is a sense of urgency about the unfolding events here. There's a reason why young people are more prone to radicalization. Now we can look at the schools and what's happening in the schools and, believe me, I'm a teacher. I know what's happening in the schools and every day I work to make sure that I am balanced and not political in my classrooms, and so what I want to do, though, is I want to talk about this process that happens. That makes, in my view, gay youth extremely vulnerable to being A politicized, b radicalized. So how does that happen, like this alleged shooter?
Speaker 1:I grew up in a conservative household. Both my families, both my parents were Republican, etc. Now I did have some more peacenik leanings. As a very young child, I did not like war. I kind of spoke out against war, you know, and my parents were just like oh well, you just don't understand why we need war, and so, for whatever mystical or spiritual or whatever reason, from a very young age, I was anti-war, and to this day, I am still adamantly anti-war. Now, that put me to the left of my parents, but that was pretty much it so I was. My sensibilities were like can't we figure out? How to make peace in the world was basically where I was coming from as a youth.
Speaker 1:Now, in my teen years, I started to experience more attraction to other girls, and this really terrified me, so I started questioning. While I was in high school, I started questioning am I gay? Am I? Am I really gay? Because, you know, the boys are okay, but I'm getting these, these weird crushes on girls, like what is that about? And so I was going through my own process of being very I was actually very, very upset about it Because, because I grew up in a religious household, I thought, well, this, I'm an abomination. I'm an abomination. If that's true, I'm an abomination, right. And so I was terrified, and while I went to a parochial high school and so I was desperately looking for a way to understand what was happening with me, and I remember, you know, you're going through this trauma you can't talk to your parents, right? There are very few people you can talk to, so you look for you know what they call now the trusted parents. Right, there are very few people you can talk to, so you look for what they call now the trusted adult, right?
Speaker 1:So I went to my psychology teacher in high school. It was an elective, I was taking my junior year, and I went to my psychology teacher because I thought it was safe to talk to him about a close encounter. Like I had just experienced a close encounter with another girl. I almost did the kiss, but I didn't because I was too scared and all of that. So I'm freaking out because I'm coming dangerously close to being an abomination. And I go to this teacher that I thought I trusted and told him the story of what was happening with me, and basically his response was he wanted to know if we had our clothes on or our clothes off, and what exactly did we do and what was it like. So I realized in that moment that this person wasn't going to help me, that they were, I was some form of entertainment for them, and so I'm in a full blown crisis and this guy is looking at it as entertainment. So I didn't really have people to talk to.
Speaker 1:What ended up happening was when it became clear, you know, when I had, like my got got my first girlfriend my senior year, it became clear that I needed to get out of the house, that my family was going to reject me anyway and I needed to leave, and so I moved out of the house when I was 18, months before I graduated. So it was, you know, I moved out in March and I graduated in June and my family found out everything shortly after, within days, and I was rejected. So I was pretty much out on my own and rejected by my family and so there was no going back. There was no going back, there was no. I wasn't going to be accepted back into the fold because now it was out, it was out, it was, people knew and I was done. I was basically, you know, dead to my family. So the whole while that I am in this kind of crisis, I am still seeking spiritual solace.
Speaker 1:One of the things that I did was I found a local, what they called a barn mass, and the reason why it was called a barn mass was because it happened in a barn. But it was like kind of like a hippie version of mass. You know, folks dressed differently, the music was guitars. It was really, it was really awesome, and when we did the sign of peace, we hugged each other and I thought this is really awesome. I feel like I can at least hold on to my spiritual home and people seem to accept me here.
Speaker 1:Well, this was my senior year when I was still living at home. When I was. This was my senior year when I was still living at home. But you know, I was told that the barn mass didn't count as my obligatory, you know, church going because it happened on a Friday evening and not Sunday. But that just happened to be when the barn mass happened and when it could happen, and so I was basically not relieved from mass going on Sunday because I went to mass on Friday evenings. I still had to go to mass on Sunday and I found it to be really it was becoming more and more difficult for me to go to mass and to go to that church, and I will tell you this, that it had become increasingly difficult for me to participate in going to that church ever since an altar boy I was in junior high when this happened an altar boy was murdered. My parish was murdered. His head was smashed with a brick and the only suspect then and to this day suspect then and to this day was a priest at our church and there was some deal that was made. The priest was found guilty for child molestation but they didn't pursue the murder charges. So there was some deal that was made because they dropped the murder charges and he pleaded guilty to the child molestation and it was a very, very sad, kind of traumatic event that happened.
Speaker 1:That was kind of quieted, but there was something about that that just bothered me, I think, for the whole rest of the time and so you know, when I left home I didn't have to, you know, go to that church anymore. But you know, I was still for me. I had always there were issues I had with the church, but I loved Jesus, I thought Jesus was amazing and I wanted to continue to have a relationship with Jesus. All right, so there's, there's that. But I I I moved out and found that it was. It was difficult to find. I no longer had access to my nuclear family and people need to understand that. That is extraordinarily traumatic. When someone people underestimate the power of the nuclear family, we like to poo-poo it. We like to say oh, you know. And in the gay community they say well, you found family, you go out and you find your family. Well, I've tried that too and there's some solace to that. But it doesn't completely take away the trauma of being rejected by your nuclear family. That's really, really big. And let me tell you something Within days after moving out of the house, I put myself in therapy.
Speaker 1:Moving out of the house, I put myself in therapy. I was going to therapy regularly after I moved out because I'm thinking everyone thinks that I'm crazy and an abomination and I have to go to therapy to find out really, am I, is there something really wrong with me? So I went to this you know this psychiatric clinic and sat with this. I just remember the therapist being one of those guys that didn't say much. You know, there was a there was a recorder going on, so he was recording things, but he wasn't really saying much. And then one day I finally said you know, and I talked about, you know, all the usual things, right, I talked about you know how kind of in crisis I was about my, my sexual identity, and I talked about how kind of in crisis I was about my sexual identity, and I talked about my family and my mother and my father and all of this stuff, all the usual stuff you talk about in therapy. And he would just basically listen but not say much. And finally one day I said listen, I really need to know if I'm crazy or not. And he looked at me and he was kind of surprised by the question. I thought it was a perfectly logical question. That's why I was there. And he said of course you're not. I was like okay, all right, okay, so of course I'm not, um, so that was not a really helpful um therapeutic experience for me. But I did find that as I got into um like later on, I got myself into therapy and I think I spent my all my 20s in therapy.
Speaker 1:People ask, well, what did you do with your disposable income? It was therapy. So I had the experience of kind of being rejected by my family and I was looking for a spiritual home and, to be honest with you, could not find one. So I was raised with two religions Baptist and Catholic. My spiritual home was not in the Catholic Church and it was not in the Baptist Church. I didn't think it was in any church at all. So and I felt that it must be true then that I you know that God doesn't love me either, that I've done something horribly wrong and I'm, you know, I'm probably going to hell. I don't know. I mean, I, I guess I am an abomination.
Speaker 1:And so along came these political organizers and what I found? I was mid-20s, maybe I just graduated, I think I was in my first job or something like that, and I met these political organizers who basically started giving me leftist, Marxist material on sexuality, and it was understanding your sexuality as a political statement, and basically they were saying your sexuality is a political, it's powerful, it's a political statement against the oppressive roles of our society. And there were a lot of things that really resonated with me. It was like, oh, I'm not really a bad person, it's just like I'm, you know, I'm, my whole being is kind of making this, this powerful statement about you know the oppressive roles of gender, womanhood and manhood, and it kind of made sense to me. It made enough sense for me to want who I was and so, being emotionally vulnerable, I went in that direction. These were the folks who accepted me. This was the community I belonged. I thought I had found a place where I belonged. All right, and these were Marxists. You know, they were Marxists. So there was a period of my life where I was a I was an extreme leftist, marxist radical and I thought that my sexuality was a political expression. That and and I honestly think that I was vulnerable to being organized in this way politically because of my family rejection and because I had not found a spiritual home and I was not strong enough to say, well, I really, really still love Jesus. So I'm just going to maintain that that wasn't enough to get me through all of kind of the loss Right, and also during those during the time before, the years before I became a political activist, the only place really to go where you felt like you belonged at that point in my life was the gay bar, right, so I went to the gay bars.
Speaker 1:I was young, we went to the gay bars, and I will tell you that at the gay bars there, the, the, the drugs were, uh, were. It was crazy because it was. It was the bouncers who were selling the drugs and I thought, wow, that's really crazy. You know, so you can get drugs from the bouncer, which I just I thought, even at that point in my life, I thought that's, that's really crazy. How could that be? So, yeah, so there was a period of time when I drank and did drugs, and that was, you know that that helped me get through, you know. You know it put a bandaid on what.
Speaker 1:What I was going through emotionally when I became politically organized, though, I, I got cleaned up, like I, I cleaned up and I did it in in their, their perspective, was yeah, none of us do drugs because we want we don't ever want them to have an excuse to to arrest us, so we're doing that. It wasn't, it wasn't a moral thing, it was. We're going to make sure that you know they never have an excuse to, you know, to target us, basically. So you have to live a very clean life, like most of the Marxist that I was involved with. They they were heavy drinkers, though they, they drank a lot, but they're they didn't. They didn't do drugs, they were, they were super clean for that reason, because they felt like we don't want to be targeted by the man.
Speaker 1:So, basically, what you have in this situation and this is what makes it so dangerous and people say why are so many of these crazy leftist gay people? Why are so many of these crazy leftists, you know, gay people? Why are they Satanists? Right, okay, I think it's a perfect opportunity for Lucifer, because I believe you know, I believe you know that there are demons afoot in our world and I do believe Lucifer is alive and well and working darn hard in our world.
Speaker 1:And so you have a situation where these voices can come in and say your family has abandoned you, your God has abandoned you, but we haven't we accept you. They call you an abomination, but we think you are, you know, whatever, amazing, exalted, whatever, and um, in that you have a special place, um, in in what we're doing. All right, so it's political, but it also can lead and I'm and I thank God that I wasn't exposed to, um, you know, to my knowledge, to to Satanist or people who wanted to recruit me in that way, um, but if they, but, but young people who have had that kind of rejection and experience a void in their nuclear family and a void in their spiritual life, that will be filled by something, and that's what people need to understand. It will be filled by something. And so then along comes these forces, and I do believe that there are forces afoot who have known perfectly well that they could target this population to manipulate politically, like this is a great population, we know exactly what to say to them, we know exactly how to recruit them, and they're vulnerable, they need a place and we will provide it for them. And they do. And once these organizations or these forces, these entities, have replaced the nuclear family and have substituted the spiritual, you know, and filled in the spiritual void, then it's very hard for these young, radicalized um, yeah, these folks to then extract themselves from that, because it's all they have, um, and, and so that is, I think, a very, very sad crossroads and a very dangerous crossroads that we're in now, because all young people want love, acceptance, they want to find a greater purpose in life. This is when young people they want to go out there and they're like they want to change the world, they want to impact the world in some big way. That's what young people, that's how young people are thinking.
Speaker 1:I wanted to change the world for something better, you know, to make some, make the world a better place. I saw all of the things that were wrong and wanted to change it. And then and I came to believe that the answer was political. Now, it took me a long time to come around to the truth of that and for me to remove myself from that political expression. It took me a while to get to that place, but I did. And as soon as I extracted myself from that place, I began to explore ways to be more spiritual. What I was missing, what I had the deepest desire for, is a spiritual life.
Speaker 1:So I want to just do a sidebar here and um say a little bit about you know how I understand homosexuality or gayness now, because I've gone through many changes and many, many ways that I think about it over the years and this is what I've arrived on. And if you talk to me five years from now, maybe I'll have a different take, I don't know. But this is kind of the moment that I'm in right now and kind of how I'm thinking about it and I'm sharing it, even though it's pretty controversial. My particular take on what gayness is. What is gayness? Why do gay people exist? What is gayness?
Speaker 1:And what I've come to believe about homosexuality is that it's the result of an imbalance of the sacred feminine and the sacred masculine, that it somehow gives expression to aspects of the feminine and the masculine that have been suppressed and repressed over a long period of time. So in a way, I think it's evolutionarily necessary for this kind of expression to exist until the human family can find balance between the feminine and the masculine. So consciousness itself will produce ways for these aspects of humanness to be expressed. So I think that there has been an imbalance between the masculine and the feminine for quite a long time and because we are beings made of consciousness, consciousness is, you know, it's our soul, it's our consciousness that is always evolving and that's kind of how humans will evolve, is our consciousness will evolve.
Speaker 1:I think that in order for these aspects of the feminine and the masculine to still be represented in the, you know, in the material, I think that you have you know, the presence of the homosexual, of the ones who are really the outliers in terms of the, you know, of sexual, acceptable sexual expression for women and acceptable expression for for men. And so what I do think, and you know people have have said well then you know what happens when you know the masculine and the feminine are balanced, will there be homosexuality? I don't think so. I honestly don't think so. I think that in a world where the and in an existence where the divine, masculine and feminine are balanced in the ways and functioning in the ways that they were intended, that homosexuality might not exist. So my existence, I believe, is an expression of this kind, of this evolutionary necessity of expressing aspects that need to be expressed until the masculine and the feminine can come back into balance.
Speaker 1:So, when it comes to this moment that we're living in right now, we have a completely politicized gay movement and let me tell you, there are so many gay people who are appalled at what happened to Charlie Kirk, there are so many gay people who are not politicized. They're just living their lives. They're going about their business and they're living their lives and they're trying to be the best human they can be and the best member of their community they can be. They're, you know, the best person they can be. Many of them are, you know, have relationships with Jesus and may be Christian. I think that, unfortunately, we see the radicalized, we see more of the radicalized, and what's happening is that the response to these things, these extreme acts, these acts of violence, there's kind of this broad stroke. Gay people are really screwing things up for us. Gay people are more violent, this and that, and I'm not really going to go into a debate about that, but I do think what I'm focusing on is the danger of these broad strokes, because there are many gay people out there who are not radicalized, who never were radicalized. You know me, I'm where I am right now because I experienced being radicalized and at some point I woke up to it and I turned it around. So now, in looking back 2020, right is is clearer vision I look back and say, oh, my goodness, that was my trajectory, right, a very similar trajectory as many of the young people now. So this young shooter had a, you know, conservative christian household, and who knows what happened with his family and who knows what happened to with his church, but at some point he's out there being totally radicalized. How did that happen? And of course it happened on a university campus, because I think, like these predators right, these political predators are out there, you know, looking, looking for and who's the most vulnerable.
Speaker 1:I think that the gay community has been targeted for manipulation, for political manipulation, to serve the ends of mainly these, these darker, shadowy, globalist, um kinds of agendas. And so the trans movement has been the trojan horse for the transhumanist movement, you know, and it's and it's held up and exalted and protected in these ways like that have are unprecedented, and it really has to do with that. It is there are some very, very powerful forces in our world who are soulless. That is part machine, part human, and that is absence of divine spark. So we can engineer a human and we can make it any way we want and in a way, I think that the trans agenda has been part of that. We'll lop off this, we'll add that we can do anything. We'll make you into whatever you want to be, whatever you imagine we can do anything. We'll make you into whatever you want to be, whatever you imagine we can do that. We can make that happen. And there are a lot of it's more complex than that and it's been going on for a while and it is a very deep dark agenda. So right from the start, very deep dark agenda.
Speaker 1:So right from the start, I was concerned about the movement. I thought that there was something afoot, there's something not quite right here. But I will tell you that so many of the people that I've known along the way have fallen into that. They've got the trans flags on their, you know, on their Facebook page covers and and all of that, and I think that it has become a pretty dangerous movement. So they're, they're radicalized and they're used. They're, they're used and manipulated.
Speaker 1:I mean, I have a lot of empathy for young people and and I see it, you know, in my teaching to young people who feel that they, you know that they need to express themselves in that way as opposed to just loving the body that they were born in, there is real, there is real gender dysphoria, but it's a very, very small percentage. So what do I think the solution is and I will tell you. This is my plea to families and to churches you don't have to say every aspect of this is fine. But when you reject a child, right, a young person from your family, and they're put out, that has a bigger impact than you think and most young people do not have the emotional tools to deal with that kind of trauma. So there's that aspect.
Speaker 1:Most young people do want to have a spiritual home. They want to have a place where they can have a relationship with their maker, where they can have a relationship with Christ, that they can interact and seek some kind of Christ consciousness. We are all striving in one way or another towards that end, and so young people are no exception. But when you have churches closing their doors or rejecting these young people, then they will go elsewhere, right, not having that kind of emotional home, that is family or spiritual home. That void will be filled, and it will be filled by politics, because that's that's the kind of the natural progression. Okay, my family, you know no home in my family. I don't have a spiritual home. I guess politics is the answer and there are plenty of political predators out there waiting for them. They've got all the right material to show them their vulnerabilities and makes them so easy to manipulate into radical radicalism.
Speaker 1:And so I my urgency is this a middle way, with creating spaces, families and in churches for young gay people. I'm not saying, oh yeah, let's have a drag show in the cry room for the kids. That should never, ever happen, and that's why I have a real issue with some of what some Catholic churches are doing, but that's a whole other story. But I think that there is no harm and I think this is one of the things that Charlie I mean people really heard all of what Charlie Kirk said to some of the trans people that talked to him. He was loving in his approach and still held to his faith. The bottom line was that Jesus loves you, jesus loves you, and so I think that there has to be a way for us to convey that message, as simplistic as it sounds, but convey that message, live that message, walk that message, because there are young gay people wanting to go to church right now because they were traumatized by the Charlie Kirk incident.
Speaker 1:Church right now because they were traumatized by the Charlie Kirk incident. They're the ones who have not been radicalized. They're just young, confused, frightened gay people who saw that, were traumatized by that and are seeking some kind of spiritual solace. They need to find spiritual homes in the spiritual organizations that we have. I'm not a huge fan of churches, but I think we could have some improvement there. But that's just from my personal experiences. But you can find solace in some of these spiritual places and that's where young people are looking. So they are showing up at churches now because they're traumatized and I really hope that churches are finding a way to connect with them, to reach out.
Speaker 1:You just have to understand that the trauma that a young person experiences when they are rejected from their family's trauma that may take the rest of their lives to heal and I speak from personal experience that is a trauma that goes really, really deep and takes a long, long time to heal and I just think, like, while it's unhealed, that person that son or that daughter is vulnerable to being manipulated by forces who can tap into and exploit that vulnerability.
Speaker 1:So I hope you've gotten something helpful from this.
Speaker 1:I hope it wasn't too much of a rant, but it is really my appeal for us to find a home for the young people who are looking for love and for acceptance and for purpose in their lives and are experiencing rejection and are experiencing trauma, just like we're all experiencing.
Speaker 1:But because they're gay, they may feel that they don't have a spiritual home and I think for a long time that has been the message you have no spiritual home here. If that's how you're living and we really need to find the middle way on that, and if we want to protect our young people from being radicalized by those who will just use and abuse them and then discard them when they're finished with their purpose, if we want to truly protect our young people from that, from the radicalization and you know the Satan worshipers who are ready and willing and just waiting to pounce on and prey upon young, hurt, broken youth, if we really want to protect our young people, we have to find a home for them. They have to be able to find a home either with their nuclear family, nuclear family in a spiritual community, because that's what they need. They need a spiritual home, as we all do. So I'm urging you to just kind of give that a little thought and thank you for listening. This patty with patty talks too much.